RE: Definition of Racism (was "Vicious Racism")

From: Loree Thomas (loreetg@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Aug 08 2001 - 13:50:35 MDT


--- "Mitchell, Jerry (3337)"
<Jerry.Mitchell@esavio.com> wrote:
> > --- Jerry Mitchell <jmitch12@tampabay.rr.com>
> wrote:
> > > labeled racist (neat trick for a black cop to be
> > > racist of blacks).
> >
> > Not such a trick at all. Happens constantly.

<snip>

> Racists are a subset of discriminators.

Well... you are using two different definitions of
discriminate here.

>From Random House Webster's College dictionary
(copyright 1999):

Discriminate:
1) to make a distinction in favor of or against a
person on the basis of the group or class to which
that person belongs, rather than according to merit.

2) to note or observe a difference.

1 and 2 are different usages, you are acting as if
they are identical... they aren't.

> This is my point. The black cop using racial
> profiling COULD think that
> blacks are genetically superior to whites, yet still
> think that
> statistically they commit more crime. He would be
> discriminating... NOT
> racist (unless you include discrimination in your
> definition of racism which
> is a circular loop of reasoning).

As long as he wasn't USING racial profiling, he could
certainly think that way and not be acting racist...
however the first time he stops a black person for no
other reason than he IS black he has then acted racist
against blacks.

Racial profiling is racist. Making true statistical
statements based on race isn't racist... actions based
on those statistics and aimed at individuals is
racist.

Is this making sense yet?

Discriminating (def 1.) based on race IS racist.
Based on sex it is sexist, based on sexual orientation
it is heterosexist.

Discriminating (def 2.) is simply acknowledging
reality no matter what traits or characteristics you
are observing.

Racists (and their apologists) tend to conflate
definitions 1 and 2.

I have a hard time believing that there would be
anyone on THIS list arguing in favor of racial
profiling.

Loree

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