RE: [Fwd: Anyone surprised ?]

From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Sun Aug 05 2001 - 21:32:25 MDT


Adrian Tymes provides a list of purported I.Q.s of the
presidents. I have two questions. (1) do you have any
idea of what the standard deviation for the population
at large would be for this "test", (2) have you asked
yourself how many people in a nation the size of the U.S.
would be expected to have Clinton's purported I.Q.,
namely 182?

Lee

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-extropians@extropy.org
> [mailto:owner-extropians@extropy.org]On Behalf Of Adrian Tymes
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 2:45 PM
> To: extropians@extropy.org
> Subject: [Fwd: Anyone surprised ?]
>
>
> Figured we could use a little humor right about now. ^_^
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> FromSent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 7:11 PM
>
> > >In a report published Monday, the Lovenstein Institute
> > >>>>>of Scranton, Pennsylvania detailed its findings of a
> > >>>>>four month
> > >>>>>study of the intelligence quotient of President George
> > >>>>>W. Bush.
> > >>>>>Since 1973, the Lovenstein Institute has published
> > >>>>>its research to the
> > >>>>>education community
> > >>>>>on each new president, which includes the famous "IQ"
> > >>>>>report among others.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>According to statements in the report, there have been
> > >>>>>twelve presidents
> > >>>>>over the past 50 years, from F. D. Roosevelt to G. W.
> > >>>>>Bush who were all
> > >>>>>rated based on scholarly achievements, writings that
> > >>>>>they alone produced without aid of staff, their
> > >>>>>ability to speak with
> > >>>>>clarity, and several other psychological factors which
> > >>>>>were then scored in the
> > >>>>>Swanson/Crain system of intelligence ranking.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>The study determined the following IQs of each
> > >>>>>president as accurate to within five percentage
> > >>>>>points:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>147 Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
> > >>>>>132 Harry Truman (D)
> > >>>>>122 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
> > >>>>>174 John F. Kennedy (D)
> > >>>>>126 Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
> > >>>>>155 Richard M. Nixon (R)
> > >>>>>121 Gerald Ford (R)
> > >>>>>175 James E. Carter (D)
> > >>>>>105 Ronald Reagan (R)
> > >>>>>098 George HW Bush (R)
> > >>>>>182 William J. Clinton (D)
> > >>>>>091 George W. Bush (R)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>The six Republican presidents of the past 50 years had
> > >>>>>an average IQ of 115.5, with President Nixon having
> > >>>>>the highest IQ, at 155.
> > >>>>>President G. W. Bush was rated the lowest of all the
> > >>>>>Republicans with an IQ of 91.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>The six Democrat presidents had IQs with an
> > >>>>>average of 156, with President Clinton having the
> > >>>>>highest IQ, at 182.
> > >>>>>President Lyndon B. Johnson was rated the lowest of
> > >>>>>all the Democrats with
> > >>>>>an IQ of 126.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>No president other than Carter (D) has released his
> > >>>>>actual IQ, 176.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Among comments made concerning the specific testing of
> > >>>>>President GW Bush, his low ratings were due to his
> > >>>>>apparent difficulty to
> > >>>>>command the English language in public statements, his
> > >>>>>limited use of
> > >>>>>vocabulary (6,500 words for Bush versus an average of
> > >>>>>11,000 words for other
> > >>>>>presidents), his lack of scholarly achievements other
> > >>>>>than a basic MBA,
> > >>>>>and an absence of any body of work which could be
> > >>>>>studied on an intellectual
> > >>>>>basis. The complete report documents the methods and
> > >>>>>procedures used to
> > >>>>>arrive at
> > >>>>>these ratings, including depth of sentence structure
> > >>>>>and voice stress
> > >>>>>confidence analysis.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>"All the Presidents prior to George W. Bush had a
> > >>>>>least one book under their belt, and most had written
> > >>>>>several white papers
> > >>>>>during
> > >>>>>their education or early careers. Not so with
> > >>>>>President Bush," Dr.
> > >>>>>Lovenstein said. "He has no published works or
> > >>>>>writings, so in many ways that
> > >>>>>made
> > >>>>>it more difficult to arrive at an assessment. We had
> > >>>>>to rely more heavily
> > >>>>>on transcripts of his unscripted public speaking."
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>The Lovenstein Institute of Scranton Pennsylvania
> > >>>>>think tank includes high
> > >>>>>caliber historians, psychiatrists, sociologists,
> > >>>>>scientists in human
> > >>>>>behavior, and psychologists.
> > >>>>>Among their ranks are Dr. Werner R. Lovenstein,
> > >>>>>world-renowned sociologist, and Professor Patricia
> > >>>>>F.Dilliams, a
> > >>>>>world-respected psychiatrist.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>This study was commissioned on February 13, 2001 and
> > >>>>>released on July 9, 2001 to subscribing member
> > >>>>>universities and
> > >>>>>organizations within the education community.
>



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