From: Robert Wasley (rpwasley@pacbell.com)
Date: Tue Jul 03 2001 - 23:15:45 MDT
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I think that what Hitler wrote holds little relevence to the current
problems in the Middle East. Regarding Arab
sympathy or support for the Germans during the Second World War, it
probably
had more to do with the fact
that much of the Middle East was under British control and Arab
nationalists
saught allies where ever they could
find them.
Robert Wasley
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Lubkin" <lubkin@unreasonable.com>
To: <extropians@extropy.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 9:04 PM
Subject: Nazis and Palestinians (Was Re: Another No-spoiler review of
A.I.)
> On 7/3/01 at 12:46 PM J. R. Molloy wrote:
>
> > Brian Phillips wrote,
> > > I have often wondered what the Palestinians think of
> > > Mein Kampf.....
>
> > That's a fascinating angle, and one that never occurred to me. I
guess
> > it was the Nazis who were indirectly responsible for inflicting the
> > Israelis on the Palestinians. My hunch is that the Palestinians do
_not_
> > consider their enemy's enemy their friend. IOW, I imagine they think
> > Mein Kampf is as full of balderdash as the Torah or Das Kapital. In
> > which case they'd be correct for all the wrong reasons.
>
> Err, I don't know what 'Palestinians' think *now* but there's a
massive
> documentation of Arab collaboration with Nazis during WW II and
subsequent
> Arab praise -- some quite recent -- for Hitler and Nazism (from
Nassar,
> Sadat, Assad, Arafat, etc.).
>
> As for the Torah and Das Kapital being viewed as 'balderdash', Islam
> reveres some of the big names in Judaism, like Abraham, there were
many
> years of Arab nations being client states for the Soviets, and some
Arab
> dabbling in Marxism (as in the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen).
>
> Meanwhile, Israel had its own flirtation with socialism which they
still
> haven't totally recovered from. One of the reasons I'm a libertarian
is
> having lived there; a small dose of socialism can have an innoculating
> effect. (Anders: what has your political evolution been?)
>
> Brian's preceding comments re Israel's behavior toward the
'Palestinians'
> strike me as the sort of baiting that triggers our gun flamewars.
There
> is some truth in what he said, but it's a misleading 5% of the total
> story. I won't get into detailed rebuttal though unless other people
> want to discuss it.
>
>
> -- David Lubkin.
>
>
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