From: Chuck Kuecker (ckuecker@mcs.net)
Date: Wed Jun 13 2001 - 13:49:52 MDT
Echelon is (supposedly) alive and well in the US, Canada, and the UK. The
scheme was for others to spy on our people, and we would spy on theirs,
thus avoiding the "you can't do that here!" laws...
Echelon can only "intercept" stuff that is sent over monitored lines or
frequencies, and then it can only try to identify communications of a
"dangerous" nature. Once a target is identified, a human operator must
decide if it warrants further investigation. It's not going to be watching
re-runs of 'The Simpsons' , for instance.
Intercepting EVERYTING electronic is in the works for the UK, where they
recently announced they will be keeping a record of EVERY phone call, web
access, and email that crosses the UK borders, or originates inside them,
for, I think, ten years. This would only provide "evidence" in case of a
government action - I don't remember hearing about it being pro-active the
way Echelon is supposed to work.
Hence this list of some supposed "triggers" for Echelon:
FBI CIA NSA IRS ATF BATF DOD WACO RUBY RIDGE OKC OKLAHOMA CITY MILITIA GUN
HANDGUN MILGOV ASSAULT RIFLE TERRORISM BOMB DRUG HORIUCHI KORESH DAVIDIAN
KAHL POSSE COMITATUS RANDY WEAVER VICKIE WEAVER SPECIAL FORCES LINDA THOMPSON
SPECIAL OPERATIONS GROUP SOG SOF DELTA FORCE CONSTITUTION BILL OF RIGHTS
WHITEWATER POM PARK ON METER ARKANSIDE IRAN CONTRAS OLIVER NORTH VINCE FOSTER
PROMIS MOSSAD NASA MI5 ONI CID AK47 M16 C4 MALCOLM X REVOLUTION CHEROKEE
HILLARY BILL CLINTON GORE GEORGE BUSH WACKENHUT TERRORIST TASK FORCE 160
SPECIAL OPS 12TH GROUP 5TH GROUP SF
I love playing mind games with bureaucrats...
Chuck Kuecker
At 11:24 AM 6/13/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Some time ago there was a discussion of a system the US had in Europe that
>intercepted all electronic communications net, voice, video. Its name I
>think was something like echilon. Has anyone saved the messages or have the
>web site/
>
>Has it been deployed in the US, Canada or Mexico?
>
>Thanks Ralph
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