Re: Progress: What does it mean to you?

From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@ricochet.net)
Date: Sat Jun 02 2001 - 21:58:52 MDT


Samantha writes
>> Please acknowledge that even under primitive technology
>> lives of wonder and joy are possible now. (I sincerely
>> hope that you both have great joy and wonder in your
>> present lives.)
>
>Yes. Does this deny there is also outrageous suffering and
>limitation present in this level of life? No. Given time
>enough I expect to transcend some of these limits.

I totally agree.

>This incredible intolerance? I think it comes mainly from
>your own filtering of what I said frankly.

Perhaps I exaggerated. Sorry. Here is what you wrote:

> Much of what most people see as "human being" is a deadly
> and noxious mixture even without transhumanist possibilities.
> Why would I chose to carry all that latter-day primate baggage
> around with me indefinitely?

Sounds intolerant to me, and shrill too, if I may say so.
(If I may not say so, please ignore it.)

>Is this life as it is good enough? The only reasonable
>answer in my opinion is a resounding NO! Does that make
>me "incredibly intolerant"? No. I think it is a little
>pathological to claim others are pathological simply for
>pointing out that this level of living is not a desirable
>long-term condition.
>
>> Now that's over-reacting, but I think that you are too.
>
>I think I didn't ask for your evaluation in such terms.

I am so sorry. I'll shall try never to candidly evaluate
your views, e.g. to stoop to calling them something as
insulting as "over-reacting", unless you specifically
ask me for it. How rude of me.
 
>> I'm sure that you would agree that we cannot OVERSTATE
>> how unbelievable exhilarating and wonderful life shall
>> be later on---but that should NOT come at the cost
>> of denigrating life now.
>
>There is no need. Simply open your eyes to the negative as well
>as the positive of it and acknowledge that it is not enough.

(meekly: I agree; vast, vast improvement is needed and
have ALWAYS said so, as when I push http://www.hedweb.com )

Your friend, the pathological, unseeing (eyes closed),
deadly and noxious fellow human being

Lee Corbin
 



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