Re: Apocalypse Cow and Mad Cow Implications for Cryos

From: John Marlow (johnmarlow@gmx.net)
Date: Wed May 16 2001 - 15:56:24 MDT


It's been known for some time that onset of symptoms could take up to
30 years. Cryo--interesting question, as well as effect of life
extension on probablity of coming down with this thing.. Stopped
eating red meat years ago because of this nasty--but then, a
restaurant will likely fry my eggs in the same spot they made a
hamburger. Still, have to be reducing the odds.

Anyone doubting eventual appearance of vCJD in US should read this:

http://caq.com/caq62/caq62madcow.html

Compared with Europe, US is completely reckless, thanks to money
flowing to the power of the beef/poultry industry, and thence to the
regulators. Best-case scenario: Appearance in Europe was freak
occurrence (perhaps related to genetics of Cow Zero) and will not
repeat here in spite of seemingly identical conditions; no prions
will be imported into the US foodchain (unless a tourist falls into a
balogna mixer).

Cross your fingers and hope to live.

jm

--
On 16 May 2001, at 15:53, Randy Smith wrote:
> 
> 
> A frightening article from http://www.newscientist.com...
> Here is an excerpt:
> 
> ".......
> Gene data reveals that further waves of human deaths due to mad cow disease 
> are likely
> 
> 
> Further waves of deaths from the human form of mad cow disease look 
> increasingly inevitable, following new genetic studies in mice.
> 
> These show that mice can vary enormously in the time they take to develop an 
> equivalent disease, depending on the combination of genes they have 
> inherited.
> 
> The studies undermine hopes that the 100 or so victims to date of variant 
> Creutzfeld Jakob Disease (vCJD) only succumbed to the disease because of 
> freak variations in one key gene.
> 
> The new work suggests the time it takes to develop the disease might depend 
> on a combination of several genes, not just one. This means that far greater 
> numbers of us could be "incubating" the disease, but have yet to show 
> symptoms.
> 
> "It's not a question of whether you get the disease, but when," says John 
> Collinge, the neurogeneticist at University College London who led the 
> research. He adds that, if we are fortunate, the incubation times may be 
> longer than natural lifespans for many people.
> 
> "We would predict that some humans would have very long incubation periods 
> and others would have short ones depending on the cocktail of gene variants 
> they've got," he says.
> ......."
> 
> So, does anyone know if the prion disease will continue to ravage the brain 
> even when submerged in LN2 (or at the proposed, somewhat warmer storage 
> conditions)?
> 
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