Re: GUNS: Misleading report by a true believer.
From: Joe Dees (joedees@addall.com)
Date: Mon Mar 05 2001 - 23:30:40 MST
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>From: "Technotranscendence" <neptune@mars.superlink.net>
>To: <extropians@extropy.org>
>Subject: Re: GUNS: Misleading report by a true believer.
>Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:37:38 -0800
>Reply-To: extropians@extropy.org
>
>On Monday, March 05, 2001 6:27 PM Joe Dees joedees@addall.com wrote:
>> These are the same people who call me commie, fascist, liberal, and other
>> things they believe are bad just because I disagree with their attempted
>> methods of rationalizing their obsessions. I endured a 1200 email flak
>> attack from these freaks once. They can't pry their cold dead minds away
>> from their compulsions, and treat every disagreement with their propaganda
>> front as an invitation to a cyber O.K Corral, and they are
>constitutionally
>> unable to restrain themselves from ad infinitum ad nauseum propagandizing.
>> I know full well to whom, and to what, I am speaking when I address them.
>I
>> own five guns, and realize that the safest world is one where all sane and
>> competent noncriminal adults can easily exercise their constitutional
>right to
>> keep and bear, while the kids, psychos and criminals have such access
>> blocked as well as we pragmatically can, but they smell a would-be Maoist
>> dictator behind even the most reasonable efforts to effect same, and rail
>> interminably against !
>> !
>> them.
>
>We've all been through this too many times. If you just ignore the debate,
>it might -- ah, might! -- go away. Just cool out.
>
>You also have to realize that when you go into rant mode in an open forum,
>it's the equivalent of screaming like a madman in a restaurant. You might
>think you're directing your comments at a few people -- who you leave
>nameless for the rest of us, so we can't judge -- but everyone reads them
>here, including people who might not have read them before. Including
>people who might just think you're being an ass. (I'm not saying you are,
>then again I rarely read any of the posts with "GUN" in the subject line. I
>also rarely read anything from Ian...:)
>
>For the record, I'm against any limits on gun ownership, but really this
>on/off debate does nothing to change society or people's minds. You are for
>such limits. Your tantrum did not change my mind. Nor do I believe a
>similar tantrum by someone on my side of the fence will change yours. So,
>what's the point?
>
When you say NO LIMITS, dose this include convicted violent criminals, three year old kids, and the mentally incompetent and unstable? Are you THAT extremist? How would you work such a system? Would parents be jailed for removing legally purchased guns from their kids' possession? Could prison and asylum wardens be sued for abridging inmates' rights to keep and bear?
>
>Peace!
>
Exactly what I want, and if the above can purchase, keep and bear, we will all have less peace, both of body and of mind.
>
>Daniel Ust
>http://uweb.superlink.net/neptune/
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