From: Michael Lorrey (mike@datamann.com)
Date: Wed Feb 14 2001 - 07:49:26 MST
Ok, give us a cite to support your claim, since the data so far
contradicts this.
John Marlow wrote:
>
> True enough. However--I said "shot," he said "killed." The vast
> majority of cops shot are, fortunately, not killed.
>
> ;)
>
> jm
>
> On 13 Feb 2001, at 17:02, Michael Lorrey wrote:
>
> > Since 13.6% and some subset of 35%, according to the math I learned,
> > doesn't in any way equal 'MOST', your statement is still false.
> >
> > John Marlow wrote:
> > >
> > > I'll buy that--except that a huge number of "arrest situations"
> > > develop from traffic stops (suspect flakes or contraband found or
> > > NCIC comes back with warrants, etc.)--so I'm thinkiong you've still
> > > got traffic stops at the top of the list, if you include those which
> > > develop into arrest situations(?)
> > >
> > > jm
> > >
> > > On 12 Feb 2001, at 11:30, Al Villalobos wrote:
> > >
> > > > John Marlow Wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "MOST cops (who are shot) are shot during traffic stops.
> > > > Many also get into it as a result of some personal tragedy (crime)
> > > > which has affected them in some way--..."
> > > >
> > > > Having done extensive research into this very subject for work, I can quote
> > > > directly from the primary source,The FBI Uniform Crime Report for 1998 (most
> > > > recent available).
> > > >
> > > > 1989-1998 total law enforcement officers killed (includes federal agents)
> > > > 682
> > > > Killed in traffic pursuits/stops:
> > > > 93 (13.6%)
> > > > "Arrest situations" (has many sub-categories)Highest overall category
> > > > 239 (35%)
> > > >
> > > > Heres the reference: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/killed/98killed.pdf
> > > >
> > > > Page 36, Table 23 (of the document, not the PDF file)
> > > > "Law Enforcement Officers Feloniously Killed
> > > > Circumstances at Scene of Incident by Type of Weapon"
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > AL Villalobos
> > > >
> > > > "Knowlegde is Good" -- Faber (anyone?? :-) )
> > > >
> > >
> > > John Marlow
> >
>
> John Marlow
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