Re: Creative Protest

From: Adrian Tymes (wingcat@pacbell.net)
Date: Wed Feb 14 2001 - 00:42:34 MST


Michael Lorrey wrote:
> Adrian Tymes wrote:
> > Michael Lorrey wrote:
> > > Harvey Newstrom wrote:
> > > > At 6:05pm -0500 2/9/01, Michael Lorrey wrote:
> > > > >Another possibility is for extropes to sign up with RTMark, propose
> > > > >projects and fund them as well, coordinate with leftist recruits to do
> > > > >the actual sabotage, then expose them so they get nabbed....
> > > >
> > > > I find these ideas to be intellectually dishonest.
> > >
> > > Yes they are. Then again, the whole green movement is based on
> > > intellectual dishonesty.
> >
> > I'd have to agree with Harvey. Dishonesty can get one so far, but our
> > opponents are limited by the limitations of their inherent dishonesty.
> > Adopting the same strategies, while easier in the short run, would
> > likely ultimately limit us to their (lack of) achievement - and that's
> > not what we're about.
>
> If you think they lack achievement you are sadly mistaken. The majority
> of the population supports their stands against genetic engineering, use
> of natural resources, nanotechnology, and nuclear power. They follow
> Goebbels' Law, and it works very well for them.

I didn't say they hadn't persuaded a lot of people to their cause. I
said they haven't achieved that much, in terms of actually saving the
world like they purport to want. (Measuring relative to the scale of
effect we have had, and plan on having.)



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