Homework, was Re: Goo You--was Re: Nuke weapon/reactor/waste horror story links?

From: Michael M. Butler (butler@comp-lib.org)
Date: Tue Jan 09 2001 - 23:43:41 MST


Well, as long as we're wishing, I'd like a pony. Jeeze, Mr. Marlow. Do
your freaking homework. Please. Get a copy of the Freitas paper from
Foresight.

www.foresight.org/NanoRev/Ecophagy.html. Read it. It's the first paper
on the subject of any detail. As I say, I think some of what he says is
arguable.

John Marlow wrote:
> Meticulous calculations
> showed that to be very, very, very unlikely, if not
> impossible.
>
> I'd love to see similar calculations regarding the goo
> situation.
>
> I really would.
>
> ?
>
> john marlow
>
> ---
>
> --- "Michael S. Lorrey" <mlorrey@datamann.com> wrote:
> > Your position rests, though, on one key principle:
> > that absolutely
> > nobody can be trusted. I think the fact that most
> > intelligence analysts
> > will admit that at least one if not more nuclear
> > weapons may be already
> > in the hands of one or more terrorist groups, yet
> > they have not been
> > used is a pretty good indicator that even the most
> > extreme individuals
> > can still have the capacity to retain some sanity in
> > their judgement.
> > The mere fact that the russians, chinese, cubans,
> > and others have had
> > them and not used them is a pretty good indicator
> > that most people are
> > pretty good at being responsible with such power.
> > Accidents do happen,
> > no doubt, however you have not shown any indications
> > that advanced
> > nanotech would be as uncontrollable as you claim.
> > You have no evidence
> > (nor, IMHO, any knowledged to judge) that any
> > accidents would not be
> > containable.
> >
> > john marlow wrote:
> > >
> > > All true, all true--but irrelevant; point is it
> > can happen. Two further
> > > points: nukes can be tracked, perhaps even by
> > satellite, by rad emissions,
> > > making use difficult. Not so nannite packages.
> > Also, any party employing a
> > > backpack nuke must fear massive retaliation from
> > the target nation. With
> > > the proper nanoweapon, however, the target nation
> > can be obliterated,
> > > making retaliation improbable and use more likely.
> > >
> > > john marlow
> > >
> > > Michael S. Lorrey wrote:
> > >
> > > > > RUSSIA MISSING NUCLEAR DEVICES
> > > >
> > > > http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/reports/lebedlg.htm
> > >
> > > How long have they been missing? For years, so far
> > as I know. Not one
> > > has been used. How about that?
> > > Here's another question? How do we know they
> > actually had them to begin
> > > with? Perhaps its just a matter of a commie
> > official reporting x number
> > > were made and not actually making that many, then
> > pocketing the
> > > difference. Not unheard of.
> > >
> > >
> >
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