From: Emlyn (emlyn@one.net.au)
Date: Mon Dec 11 2000 - 20:03:27 MST
Backing up even one of the statements you make here would help your
credibility.
Also, what is M.V.T.? Most Valuable Transhuman?
Emlyn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nichols" <steve@multisell.com>
To: <extropians@extropy.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: Immortality
> Everyone involved in this discussion is flailing about hopelessly
> because M.V.T. is the correct (thus only) solution to the mind-body
> problem.
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> The brain manifests a phantom pineal eye. Phantoms (limbs &c)
> do not "exist" in space separate from the brain, but the feelings (of "I")
> are where they are felt. The phantom toe is felt as if it is from a foot
> that
> is no longer present. Undetectable by science, but subjectively very real.
>
> It is very obviously and indisputably true that any circuit (brains
> included)
> *must* include at least some infinite-state capacity in order to
> self-organise.
> Circuits governed by external clock/ lock-step mechanisms are
finite-state.
> The pineal eye functioned as an external clock (proven by experiments) and
> "consciousness" or self-control of behaviour (independent from solar
> command)
> happened in evolution only since the pineal eye disappeared.
>
> End of discussion (unless someone can refute MVT or has a more complete
> account of consciousness ...... and don't come back with supervenience or
> any
> purely verbal theories ... an evolutionary account is needed,
consciousness
> wasn't
> magically created by God).
>
> www.steve-nichols.com
> Posthuman Organisation
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