From: Samantha Atkins (samantha@objectent.com)
Date: Thu Sep 28 2000 - 02:34:09 MDT
"J. R. Molloy" wrote:
>
> Well, excuuuuuse me. I guess I missed the "SysOp" lecture. I must have been in
> South Dakota that day. So how does that relate to AI friendliness? The robot is
> mine because I bought it.
As it gets brighter and more human level or surpasses us what makes you
think that argument is going to look like anything but the mouthings of
slave-holder to the AI? You don't buy and sell conscious entities of
human and greater level.
> Robots are robots because they behave robotically. So
> they can't own humans. That robot came into being any way it could. It's a given
> for the purpose of discussing why AI would want to be friendly. The question
> isn't how AI comes into being; it's why it would want to be friendly.
>
Robots are self-defining if they are evolving toward and through human
level. There is no such thing as preprogrammed immutable robotic
behavior. Can you program humans to be always friendly? No? Well you
will have far less of a chance to do so with truly smart robots.
> > I'm beginning to think that you're rather good at trolling. No one
> > can't be that dense nondeliberately.
>
> Sad to learn you think that way. But I don't recall you proposing any
> constructive ideas about making AI friendly. So, to demonstrate that *you* are
> not trolling, please let us in on your formula for insuring that AI would want
> to be friendly. If you don't think that AI would want to be friendly, that
> suggests that you believe AI should not be attempted at all. In that case, how
> do you propose to keep AI from emerging?
You miss the point. There is no such insurance. There are things that
will make it more likely. But utterly no guarantees. AI and
transhumans will develop and should simply because they are more
intelligent and capable. We would like to as much as possible set it up
so they are, if not friendly, at least not out and out disasterous for
us (although I plan to join them as much as possible personally).
- samantha
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