From: Eugene Leitl (eugene.leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de)
Date: Sun Sep 17 2000 - 00:46:16 MDT
Technotranscendence writes:
> viable business plan around. No one, to my knowledge, is using them for,
> say, e-commerce or web development.:)
I would use them for computer securety. As soon as someone will breed
a good suite to breed assembly, and 3l33t h4x0rs start using it, you
can assume the global networks will break down for a good long while.
> Anyone interested in doing that here? (I've mentioned this on the list
> before, in regards to testing the space of cryoprotectants. But this was
> about two or three years ago. I think only Anders Sandberg responded.)
The idea is not new, and I've indeed have been looking at the HIC-UP
database to seed the initial population pool, but there are technical
difficulties involved with simulating this in the computer. The
current water models are no damn good, and cryoprotectants do a lot of
subtle things with hydrogen bridge bonds, and bonding to ice nuclei
(diffusion is slow), and also see the necessary simulation volume and
time scale. The problem of finding a cryoprotectant mix which will
vitrify at concentrations low enough to be nontoxic is solved,
anyway. What is left to do is the problem of putting the kidney back
into the donor animal, after cycling it through the whole
extraction-flushing-loading-chilling-vitrification-devitrification-
unloading-implantation ordeal, and have it survive in better than
few 10% of all cases.
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