From: phil osborn (philosborn@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Sep 04 2000 - 21:07:10 MDT
>From: Paul Hughes <paul@planetp.cc>
>Subject: Bugs in Anarchy was: Bugs in Free-Markets.
>Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 15:37:07 -0700
>
>Some would say we don't currently have a true free-market,
>and I agree. But I see no evidence to suggest that a true
>free-market would be any better for human freedom and
>justice than what we have now. At least now, we have the
>pretense of a Constitution to protect the liberties of
>individuals over tyranny. What are free-market advocates
>alternatives? Are you suggesting a universal social
>contract to safeguard freedom and justice in a free-market?
>Wouldn't that be the re-creation of governmental
>intervention all over again? If so, then you are no longer
>left with a free-market again.
>
No one is forced to sign on to my proposed social contract. In fact, there
could easilly be competition. However, it would be in everyone's interest
to find ways to adjudicate disputes between parties that signed on to
differing contracts. This should result in working Meta-contracts, which,
in effect, reduce once again to a universal social contract.
Some people would doubtless choose to remain totally separate. Fine. They
would simply have to pay the risk costs up front that were reduced by being
a signatory. I.e., they might have to post bonds, buy insurance, etc. at
somewhat higher rates than signatories would be charged.
>I challenge anyone on this list to demonstrate how
>free-markets can exist without a feudalist tyranny
>resulting. Demonstrate how such a system will not favor
>the rich over poor when it comes to basic civil rights and
>justice. If you can't, then you should stop complaining
>when people call you fascists or at best platocracists.
>Sure companies are there to meet the demands of the consumer
>and stockholders, but that just goes to show you that he
>with the most money - rich consumer, rich stockholder makes
>all the rules. Who is there to protect the little guy? If
>you don't give a damn about the little guy, then I rest my
>case.
>
>
>Paul Hughes
>http://planetp.cc/
>
Why should those of us who label ourselves "anarchists" have to prove
anything? Just look at the record of the state! All the private crimes
throughout history don't even come close to the destruction caused by a
single major war.
I suggest you take a look at the Mondragon Cooperative, the largest business
in Spain, coming straight out of the anarcho-syndicalist tradition. Or look
at Somalia, which did fairly well for itself for about a decade, even
defeating the remaining SuperPower in military combat, without any
government at all. They managed to keep the water running, the phones
working, the electric power going, without ANY government. And they didn't
even have an alternative plan as to how to organize things. It just
happened. Think how much better they could have done with some key business
technology to handle dispute resolutions...
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