Re: Weasels vs. transparancy / traffic cameras

From: Michael S. Lorrey (mike@datamann.com)
Date: Tue May 23 2000 - 09:45:28 MDT


Martin Ling wrote:

> On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 09:56:43AM -0400, Michael S. Lorrey wrote:
> > Martin Ling wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 08:16:42AM -0400, Michael S. Lorrey wrote:
> > > > > Formally, I have the right to a good education, but in a tax-free,
> > > > > service-free system, I may not have the effective freedom to have it.
> > > > > But by removing some of one of my freedoms (the right to choose how I
> > > > > spend my money), one of my other rights is protected.
> > > >
> > > > You have the right to educate yourself, or to buy an education. You
> > > > could volunteer to participate in the public school system, but forcing
> > > > others who choose to send their kids to private school to also pay taxes
> > > > to support you sending your kids to school is criminal.
> > >
> > > Erm, no. You may happen to think it's *wrong*, but it's not criminal. In
> > > fact, it's currently criminal for them *not* to.
> > > Please get your terms right.
> >
> > There is nothing in the Constitution, federal or state (at least for NH)
> > that says anyone is entitled to an education. That the SCOTUS' opinion
> > of congressional legislation is that they are limited to those areas
> > enumerated by some, I do beleive we should live by the limitations of
> > the Constitution.
>
> Excuse me, but where along the line did I give you reason to involve the
> US Constitution in this? As you are well aware, I live in the UK. And if
> you read back, you will notice that I was discussing *my* rights. Since
> when you responded you stated "You have the right...", etc. I assumed you
> were still discussing mine, for lack of any indication you were not.
>
> Perhaps we can resolve this before continuing.

So solly. Replace 'you' with 'we' (as in us over here).

> And my right to an education is secured by human rights treaties,
> including ones specific to the European Union.

Does the UN Declaration of Human Rights specify a right to an education? How much
education?

Mike Lorrey



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