From: Michael S. Lorrey (retroman@turbont.net)
Date: Thu May 04 2000 - 18:49:30 MDT
Zero Powers wrote:
>
> >From: Ruthanna R Gordon <rrgordon@ic.sunysb.edu>
>
> >And freedom is slavery.
>
> <snip>
>
> >When I became part of the 'cryonics crowd,' I made a deal with myself that
> >I wouldn't become frightened enough of death to live a longer life less
> >worth living. That means I'm still willing to sacrifice my life for
> >others if I see the need, and that I'm very cautious about sacrificing
> >freedom for the sake of security.
>
> Surveillance has *nothing* to do with freedom. You are free now to do
> anything that is legal. You would have that exact same freedom in a
> completely transparent society. Your only loss of freedom would be the
> freedom to commit a crime and get away with it. If you have a problem with
> giving that up, I think that says more about you than it says about society.
Explain to me how running a red light at an intersection when there are
no pedestrians or other cars present is a crime? (legally, it isn't a
crime, but a 'moving violation'. If its up to the government's power to
regulate how you move, the well recognised right of free transit is
clearly in confiscation.) Anyone on this list should be up in arms in
opposition to enforcement of any victimless crime or reglatory
violation. Heck as Americans its our god given duty to break laws we
feel are wrong, and get away with it when we can.
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