From: Ross A. Finlayson (raf@tiki-lounge.com)
Date: Wed Mar 29 2000 - 15:19:10 MST
Michael S. Lorrey wrote:
> Zero Powers wrote:
>
> > >From: "Michael S. Lorrey" <retroman@turbont.net>
> > >
> > > > Yes, but you'd have to know it was a spy plane, right? I mean, you're
> > >not
> > > > just going to whip out your goose gun and take pot shots at any
> > >moderately
> > > > low-flying plane that buzzes over your property... right?
> > >
> > >Its my property, right? Since there is no law AGAINST shooting down
> > >model airplanes that trespass on ones property, then it must be open
> > >season..
> >
> > Even in the boondocks you have no right to destroy another person's property
> > merely because you find it on your premises. That's called conversion and,
> > yes, its against the law.
>
> If your property trespesses on my property without your knowledge (i.e. if it is
> livestock that has gotten out of its pen starts eating my garden), then I could
> still kill it IF it was causing damage to my property. Conversion only works
> with livestock, because of the so-called animal cruelty issue, and only if its
> not causing damage.
>
> Since a spyplane is being used to break my wall of privacy, and shooting it down
> causes no injury to another person, then its not conversion either, because you
> sent your property on my property with intent to cause me harm (i.e. disturb my
> privacy). Entering another's property with intent is trespassing and is
> defendable with non-lethal force. Shooting down a RC spyplane is not lethal
> force, even if you use a gun to do it.
Ha ha ha.
If some model plane is flying around your property, and it might go out of control
and damage you, then it would be self-defense to remove that possibility.
If some model plane is flying around your property, and it's not yours, and you
didn't agree to it, then its trespassing. There is precedent that trespassing is
grounds for self-defense.
If someone sets up a camera with zoom lens on the edge of your property, you should
confront them about that and perhaps sue them.
I don't know airspace law but there is some altitude above the ground where it is
public domain. Maybe it is like 12 mile nautical coastline law, if someone could
explain airspace that would be good.
If someone wants to access your records, they should be able to request it but not
get it unless they had some otherwise legal prerogative.
Companies that use personal data should pay the people to use the data. It could be
ike the phone companies, some people pay five cents a minute, some people pay more,
some pay less. The companies can go to the people and pay them per use of their
data, which means any time it is stored or accessed. Heh heh, that would mean
everybody in the United States gets a check from various places that use their
personal, copyrighted data, if they agreed to let it be used. Let the companies
making money money off these individual's personal data work out plans and deals, as
well as clearinghouse data managers and data representatives.
All policemen should carry audio and video recorders that are on, recording, and
time-stamped at all times while on duty, but only as representatives of the armed
public servant's senses. Let them see how they like them before having anybody else
have them. Quantum storage will enable this soon.
The people should be able to get complete transcripts of the government before the
government of the people.
This thread subject seems to imply that there are transhuman fascists. Well, there
aren't many libertarian fascists.
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