From: Octavio Rojas Diaz (orojas@data.net.mx)
Date: Mon Mar 20 2000 - 16:01:34 MST
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On 20/03/00, 03:01:50 p.m., "Michael S. Lorrey" <mike@datamann.com>
wrote regarding Re: American Imperialism?:
> Octavio Rojas Diaz wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >
> > On 19/03/00, 02:55:29 p.m., "Michael S. Lorrey" <retroman@turbont.net>
> > wrote regarding Re: American Imperialism?:
> >
> Which is odd. All they have to do to privatize it is issue stock to
each and
> every citizen. If the oil industry causes the country to go to hell
after that,
> its their own fault.
True, but do you really believe our government will ever promote such
a measure?
It is obvious they won't, they use PEMEX to fund the national reserves
every time
they consume all our taxes in other practices, so they would never
privatize it's
main cash cow. Not only that they also use the powers of the media to
brainwash
naïve uninformed citizens that oil should be administered by the
government
(even though our oil crisis have been caused by them) and that
whomever dares
to say the oil industry should be private is a traitor, the same
happens with
wiser economic practices, so politicians usually don't dare to promote
an economic
reform, because what they want is voters.
> > Concerning corrupt police, it is precisely one of the aspects that
> > annoys me the most, the past week I was a victim of police and I had
to give
> > up 2 valuable possessions for me to be released. That's why although
> > I've been silent in the gun debates, I think if guns were legalized
> > here in Mexico, police wouldn't abuse us as much as they do.
> I got the old shakedown once when I and some buddies in my Air Force
unit went
> down to TJ for some R&R when we deployed to Miramar for some cross
service
> exercises. Fortunately it only cost each of us $25.00.
Lucky for you, I had to spend about 500 ouch!!
> > About foreign aid, it is our corrupt government who accepts it because
> > we really shouldn't depend on foreign capital, we have the resources
> > infrastructure and population to be autosuficient, however the
> > nation's riches are stolen by those in power and they have to ask for
foreign
> > aid to compensate, sometimes the foreign aid comes directly from the
> > u.s. To their pockets.
> >
> > The moment we are able to get rid of all the scum that keeps deciding
> > what's best for us in a big brother approach, and brainwashing us
> > against libertarianism, wiser economic policies or privatization,
we'll be
> > able to grow (hell we even do with all this)
> >
> > > Imperialism involves using force to get done what you want done, and
> > > locking other industrial powers out of the resources in the nations
you
> > > have power over. Offering a country aid money in return for help in
> > > fulfilling our own foreign policy needs is not imperialism.
> >
> > I agree, but if the U.S. Government knows the foreign aids they send
> > benefits more corrupt politicians than us, and it just makes our
dependence
> > greater why do they continue sending it? It appears to me they
indirectly
> > support our corrupt government, why has never the U.S. Complained
about the
> > tyranny we face and how they should help us in our advance to
democracy.
> When I was writing my previous post, I was thinking the exact same
thing, the
> fact they so eagerly accept our aid (and don't follow through on their
> agreements on drug enforcement) ought to indicate how eagerly they
accept money
> from other sources that are at counter purposes to us (i.e. the drug
> traffickers).
OK I hope you've noticed the trend here then, our government is
completely corrupt
and should be changed (something it is already happening) the problem
is that the
U.S. Collaborates a lot with our government to oppress us, I'm sure
you don't need
very high IQ to know that if the U.S. Keeps giving us money we don't
need or use
or if drugs keep coming and the quality and prices are better, it is
because
both of our governments cooperate in these issues. Also the U.S.
Government is as
corrupt as ours, the only difference is that our police force is a lot
more corrupt
than it's American counterpart, guess why there is drug war and nobody
has ever tried
to end the tyranny we have been suffering here for 70 years. If they
really cared
about what happens in Mexico, they would have ended with the
oppression a long time ago
and if they really cared about the consequences of drug traffic
(crime, etc.) they would
have legalized drugs a long time ago.
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