Re: [GUNS\ Re: g*n c*ntr*l
From: Joe Dees (joedees@addall.com)
Date: Fri Mar 17 2000 - 15:51:32 MST
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>Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:41:29 -0500
>From: "Michael S. Lorrey" <retroman@turbont.net>
>To: extropians@extropy.com
>Subject: Re: [GUNS\ Re: g*n c*ntr*l
>Reply-To: extropians@extropy.com
>
>Joe Dees wrote:
>>
>> >Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:01:54 -0500
>> >From: "Michael S. Lorrey" <retroman@turbont.net>
>> >To: extropians@extropy.com
>> >Subject: Re: [GUNS\ Re: g*n c*ntr*l
>> >Reply-To: extropians@extropy.com
>> >
>> >"Joe E. Dees" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Without an easily accessible purchase-prohibited registry which
>> >> must be checked prior to sale, such laws are unenforceable,
>> >> especially as regards to violent criminals who have done their time,
>> >> and MOST especially as to violent repeat offenders who have
>> >> served their sentences, but also including those who have
>> >> restraining orders issued against them, and the incompetent or
>> >> insane.
>> >
>> >If they have done their time, and are rehabilitated, they are no longer
>> >a threat to society, so once their parole period is up, give them back
>> >their rights. If they are a threat, don't let them out of prison. This
>> >is such a simple concept.
>> >
>> >Mike Lorrey
>> >
>> Then you are on record as advocating life without possibility of parole for anyone convicted of using a gun in a crime?
>
>If they have been ajudged by a parole board to no longer be a threat to
>society, then give them back their rights. If they remain a threat to
>society, then lock them away for keeps, or at least until a parole board
>does make a rehabilitated decision.
>
If you are willing to trust the decisions of a parole board, you must also trust in the good faith of other agencies, including mental competency boards and judges issuing restraining orders. One cannot cherry-pick which of these to and not to trust based upon preconception-based preferences - they are all populated by people. Although simply showing a gun in the commission of a crime may not be grounds for life imprisonment, I'm in favor of permanent lock-up of violent gun-wielding criminals who commit crimes resulting in firearm injury or death to others, for they have proven themselves capable of such actions by performing them; then the prospect of deaths from mistaken rights restoration to violent criminal recidivists never enters in. To pull the trigger on another human being in the commission of a crime should be to kill your own freedom to have the opportunity to do the same again for the rest of your life.
>
>Mike Lorrey
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