Re: cryonics and abortion

From: Robert Bradbury (bradbury@genebee.msu.su)
Date: Tue Jan 18 2000 - 19:26:30 MST


I'll throw a couple of comments in on the frozen abortion issue.

a) Current abortion methods are not exactly ideal for preserving
   cellular organization.

     Humpty Dumpty Sat on a wall; Humpty Dumpty got suctioned
     into a bucket. All of the anti-abortionists efforts couldn't
     put Humpty together again.

Sorry, its sick, but lets be real. Mind you, I may have missed
some of the earlier background materials, so if I've leaped
over an illusionary hurdle, please be kind.

b) I've seen floating claims that 1 cell freezing is ok and 32-64 cell
   freezing is not (much less the leftovers from an abortion).

Lets have some hard data here. What are the real limits on
freezing and revival? My guess would be that things are
probably ok until the point when significant micro-structure
forms in a multi-cellular form (above the 64 cell stage, but
below the eye-ball visible stage probably).

Mind you, if all you want is a genetic reprint, then all you
need is one cell off of an adult or the mess in the bucket.
But we are going to be able to synthesize these (cells that
produce humans) in the lab within a few years, so, the
adult scrapings or bucket leftovers are really only genetic
nostalgia at work.

Sitting in the chair, waiting for someone to throw the switch...
Robert



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