An Ebola NIGHTMARE, The Mincher Scenario

[Bite Me ATF]

In article <3ppo7t$kv6 at ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, dizzyb at ix.netcom.com (ERIC WATTREE) writes...
>In <21MAY199514450301 at utkvx.utk.edu> staywet at utkvx.utk.edu (Bite Me
>ATF) writes: 
> 
>>If we can not trust a freeman with his right to keep and 
>>bear arms, then how can we trust him with the right to 
>>vote. Surely the right of a freeman to vote has a much 
>>greater effect on our collective lives than does any 
>>individual's firearm. If one argues that the effect of any 
>>one freeman's vote is minimal, then why allow it in the 
>>first place?  To be armed is to secure one's right to 
>>representation.
>>
>>Thomas Mincher
>>==========================================================
> 
>Thomas:
> 
>If we can not trust a free man with his right to keep and deal drugs,
>then how can we trust him with the right to vote? Surely the right of a
>free man to vote has a much greater effect on our collective lives than
>does any individual's dope house. If one argues that the effect of any
>one free man's vote is minimal, then why allow it in the first place?


>To deal drugs is to secure one's right to life, liberty, and the
>pursuit of happiness.
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Here is your major flaw, your premise relates drugs and the 
right to vote, however your conclusion draws no inference on 
how drugs relate to securing representation. its a flaw which 
you your self recognized, hence you changed the entire last 
line.

I congratulate your Bait and Switch tactic, but your attempt to deceive falls 
short with your poor follow through.


You would have needed to make the last line as follows,
"to keep and deal drugs" secures your right to representation.
But, no doubt you didn't think you could fool anyone with that 
line, Hence you changed it.                                     



However, you can  relate the right to keep and bear arms to 
the ability to secure your right to representation.  One needs 
only to look at the south, Black people were denied the right 
to vote, this was enforced by denying them the right to keep 
and bear arms.


They were also subjected to poll taxes and reading and writing 
tests before  they could even have the right to vote. And if 
they tried to vote they were oft shot. Or just look at what 
happens in countries run by despots when an attempt is made to 
have elections, the polling places are shot up by troops. 
Remember Haiti? et al.                                          



In this country today, there are those who would attack our 
fundamental right to keep and bear arms, they start on the 
same path as those who denied blacks the right to vote. to 
exercise    ones right to keep and bear arms, we have your own 
version of the poll tax for firearms, and our own versions of 
performance tests.



>Further, All dogs have teeth. My cat has teeth. Therefore, my cat is a dog.

Wow, another good tactic, lets see; you  set up all false premise by almost
mirroring my words but you couldnt follow through on the logic. So, you change
the logic (by changing the meaning of the conclusion) and then with your
"teeth" line above you try to attack that false (yours ) logic. Good Show.
Joesph Goerbils would have been proud of you.

But i do applaud your attempt to inject a little humor with that last "teeth"
line, but it too falls short. In the future you have my permison to use the
following, its much more ingenious and quite a bit more funny. (you know if you
keepem' laughing, they might not notice your deception).
Next time try this-

"God is Love; Love is Blind; Ray Charles is Blind; Ray charles is God"

and eric, if you want to take this any further, i suggest you take it to Talk
politics guns (just get rid of everything else in the followup lines).

and let me include the following from JFPO, it might help shed some light.


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From: starbuck at galaxy.ucr.edu (aaron greewnood)
Date: 4 Sep 1994 00:15:26 -0700
Message-ID: <34bs6e$aj5 at galaxy.ucr.edu>

The Soviet Union established gun control in 1929. From 1929
to 1953, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend
themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Turkey established gun control in 1911. From 1915 to 1917,
1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were
rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938. From 1939 to 1945,
13 million Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, mentally ill people,
and other "mongrelized peoples," unable to defend
themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20
million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to
1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated.

Uanda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979,
300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were
rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977,
1 million "educated people," unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated.

                       Source 
      Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
                2872 S. Wentworth Ave.
                 Milwaukee, WI 53207

phone 414 - 769 - 0760

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thomas mincher