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How do I host a testnet seed myself? Best regards, Alex Kotenko 2014-05-16 23:02 GMT+01:00 Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com>: > There are only two testnet seeds listed in bitcoind, and one of them > returns SERVFAIL (testnet-seed.bitcoin.petertodd.org) and the other > just returns one A record (testnet-seed.bluematt.me). No idea what > seeds bitcoinj uses. > > If you are going to depend on testnet, especially for an important > demo... contribute to the infrastructure! This stuff doesn't just fix > itself for free. > > > > > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Alex Kotenko <alexykot@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi guys > > > > > > Just wanted to let you know that Andreas' testnet Bitcoin Wallet doesn't > > work because of fail in the peer discovery, and this caused us problems > as > > we cannot properly demonstrate my XBTerminal POS on the Bitcoin > Conference. > > > > Right now I'm booting up an own full node that I will set as trusted > peer in > > the Wallet settings, hopefully this will work. However this DNS discovery > > problem is really a problem, even for testnet. Btw, I had problems > firing up > > the full bitcoind node also, of the same reason - discovery failed. I > had to > > ask Andreas to paste me his node list to manually seed the nodelist. > > > > So I've set up and will run a well connected testnet node, as we need it > for > > the XBTerminal. > > Please let me know if I can somehow help to fix the DNS discovery issue > > also. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Alex Kotenko > > > > > > 2014-05-16 17:46 GMT+01:00 Laszlo Hanyecz <laszlo@heliacal.net>: > > > >> It looks like it might be firewalled, probably just need to fix the ACL > in > >> EC2. > >> > >> -Laszlo > >> > >> On May 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Andreas Schildbach <andreas@schildbach.de> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Apparently British Telecom also cannot speak to Peter Todd's server. > >> > > >> > That another very large ISP in Europe. > >> > > >> > > >> > On 05/15/2014 01:50 PM, Andreas Schildbach wrote: > >> >> I'm bringing this issue up again. The current Bitcoin DNS seed > >> >> infrastructure is unstable. I assume this is because of we're using a > >> >> custom DNS implementation which is not 100% compatible. There have > been > >> >> bugs in the past, like a case sensitive match for the domain name. > >> >> > >> >> Current state (seeds taken from bitcoinj): > >> >> > >> >> mainnet: > >> >> > >> >> seed.bitcoin.sipa.be OK > >> >> dnsseed.bluematt.me OK > >> >> dnsseed.bitcoin.dashjr.org SERVFAIL, tried multiple ISPs > >> >> seed.bitcoinstats.com OK > >> >> > >> >> testnet: > >> >> > >> >> testnet-seed.bitcoin.petertodd.org SERVFAIL, just from Telefonica > >> >> testnet-seed.bluematt.me OK (but only returns one node) > >> >> > >> >> Note: Telefonica is one of Europe's largest ISPs. > >> >> > >> >> I would try to improve DNS myself, but I'm not capable of writing C. > My > >> >> "fix" would be to reimplement everything in Java -- I doubt you guys > >> >> would be happy with that. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For > FREE > >> >> Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. > >> >> Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform > >> >> available > >> >> Simple to use. 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Get started now for free." > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs > > _______________________________________________ > > Bitcoin-development mailing list > > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > > > > > -- > Jeff Garzik > Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist > BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/ > --001a1136794c2d6dff04f98e09a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:courier = new,monospace;color:#003300">Ok, what do I need to do? How do I host a test= net seed myself?=C2=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"a= ll"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <span style=3D"color:rgb(0,51,0);font-family:'courier new',monospac= e">Best regards,=C2=A0</span><div><div><div style=3D"text-align:left"><font= color=3D"#003300" face=3D"'courier new', monospace" style=3D"text-= align:-webkit-auto">Alex Kotenko</font></div> </div></div></div></div> <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-05-16 23:02 GMT+01:00 Jeff Garzik <= span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:jgarzik@bitpay.com" target=3D"_blank= ">jgarzik@bitpay.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s= tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> There are only two testnet seeds listed in bitcoind, and one of them<br> returns SERVFAIL (<a href=3D"http://testnet-seed.bitcoin.petertodd.org" tar= get=3D"_blank">testnet-seed.bitcoin.petertodd.org</a>) and the other<br> just returns one A record (<a href=3D"http://testnet-seed.bluematt.me" targ= et=3D"_blank">testnet-seed.bluematt.me</a>). =C2=A0No idea what<br> seeds bitcoinj uses.<br> <br> If you are going to depend on testnet, especially for an important<br> demo... contribute to the infrastructure! =C2=A0This stuff doesn't just= fix<br> itself for free.<br> <div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br> <br> <br> <br> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Alex Kotenko <<a href=3D"mailto:alexyko= t@gmail.com">alexykot@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > Hi guys<br> ><br> ><br> > Just wanted to let you know that Andreas' testnet Bitcoin Wallet d= oesn't<br> > work because of fail in the peer discovery, and this caused us problem= s as<br> > we cannot properly demonstrate my XBTerminal POS on the Bitcoin Confer= ence.<br> ><br> > Right now I'm booting up an own full node that I will set as trust= ed peer in<br> > the Wallet settings, hopefully this will work. However this DNS discov= ery<br> > problem is really a problem, even for testnet. Btw, I had problems fir= ing up<br> > the full bitcoind node also, of the same reason - discovery failed. I = had to<br> > ask Andreas to paste me his node list to manually seed the nodelist.<b= r> ><br> > So I've set up and will run a well connected testnet node, as we n= eed it for<br> > the XBTerminal.<br> > Please let me know if I can somehow help to fix the DNS discovery issu= e<br> > also.<br> ><br> ><br> > Best regards,<br> > Alex Kotenko<br> ><br> ><br> > 2014-05-16 17:46 GMT+01:00 Laszlo Hanyecz <<a href=3D"mailto:laszlo= @heliacal.net">laszlo@heliacal.net</a>>:<br> ><br> >> It looks like it might be firewalled, probably just need to fix th= e ACL in<br> >> EC2.<br> >><br> >> -Laszlo<br> >><br> >> On May 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Andreas Schildbach <<a href=3D"mai= lto:andreas@schildbach.de">andreas@schildbach.de</a>><br> >> wrote:<br> >><br> >> > Apparently British Telecom also cannot speak to Peter Todd= 9;s server.<br> >> ><br> >> > That another very large ISP in Europe.<br> >> ><br> >> ><br> >> > On 05/15/2014 01:50 PM, Andreas Schildbach wrote:<br> >> >> I'm bringing this issue up again. The current Bitcoin= DNS seed<br> >> >> infrastructure is unstable. I assume this is because of w= e're using a<br> >> >> custom DNS implementation which is not 100% compatible. T= here have been<br> >> >> bugs in the past, like a case sensitive match for the dom= ain name.<br> >> >><br> >> >> Current state (seeds taken from bitcoinj):<br> >> >><br> >> >> mainnet:<br> >> >><br> >> >> <a href=3D"http://seed.bitcoin.sipa.be" target=3D"_blank"= >seed.bitcoin.sipa.be</a> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 OK<br> >> >> <a href=3D"http://dnsseed.bluematt.me" target=3D"_blank">= dnsseed.bluematt.me</a> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0OK<br> >> >> <a href=3D"http://dnsseed.bitcoin.dashjr.org" target=3D"_= blank">dnsseed.bitcoin.dashjr.org</a> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 SE= RVFAIL, tried multiple ISPs<br> >> >> <a href=3D"http://seed.bitcoinstats.com" target=3D"_blank= ">seed.bitcoinstats.com</a> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0OK<br> >> >><br> >> >> testnet:<br> >> >><br> >> >> <a href=3D"http://testnet-seed.bitcoin.petertodd.org" tar= get=3D"_blank">testnet-seed.bitcoin.petertodd.org</a> =C2=A0 SERVFAIL, just= from Telefonica<br> >> >> <a href=3D"http://testnet-seed.bluematt.me" target=3D"_bl= ank">testnet-seed.bluematt.me</a> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= OK (but only returns one node)<br> >> >><br> >> >> Note: Telefonica is one of Europe's largest ISPs.<br> >> >><br> >> >> I would try to improve DNS myself, but I'm not capabl= e of writing C. My<br> >> >> "fix" would be to reimplement everything in Jav= a -- I doubt you guys<br> >> >> would be happy with that.<br> >> >><br> >> >><br> >> >><br> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------<br> >> >> "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser = Testing - For FREE<br> >> >> Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS = combos.<br> >> >> Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testi= ng platform<br> >> >> available<br> >> >> Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for fr= ee."<br> >> >> <a href=3D"http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs" target=3D"_blan= k">http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs</a><br> >> >><br> >> ><br> >> ><br> >> ><br> >> ><br> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------= -----------------<br> >> > "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Test= ing - For FREE<br> >> > Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS comb= os.<br> >> > Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing p= latform<br> >> > available<br> >> > Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free.&= quot;<br> >> > <a href=3D"http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs" target=3D"_blank">h= ttp://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs</a><br> >> > _______________________________________________<br> >> > Bitcoin-development mailing list<br> >> > <a href=3D"mailto:Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net">= Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net</a><br> >> > <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitco= in-development" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listi= nfo/bitcoin-development</a><br> >><br> >><br> >><br> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------<br> >> "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing -= For FREE<br> >> Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos.<b= r> >> Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platfo= rm<br> >> available<br> >> Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free."= <br> >> <a href=3D"http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs" target=3D"_blank">http:/= /p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs</a><br> >> _______________________________________________<br> >> Bitcoin-development mailing list<br> >> <a href=3D"mailto:Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net">Bitco= in-development@lists.sourceforge.net</a><br> >> <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-de= velopment" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/b= itcoin-development</a><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------= --------<br> > "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For= FREE<br> > Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos.<br> > Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform<b= r> > available<br> > Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free."<br> > <a href=3D"http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs" target=3D"_blank">http://p.s= f.net/sfu/SauceLabs</a><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > Bitcoin-development mailing list<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net">Bitcoin-d= evelopment@lists.sourceforge.net</a><br> > <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-develo= pment" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitco= in-development</a><br> ><br> <br> <br> <br> </div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">--<br> Jeff Garzik<br> Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist<br> BitPay, Inc. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://bitpay.com/" target=3D"= _blank">https://bitpay.com/</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> --001a1136794c2d6dff04f98e09a7--