Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from <john.dillon892@googlemail.com>) id 1UYyjn-00007B-KW for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 05 May 2013 13:12:23 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of googlemail.com designates 74.125.83.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.45; envelope-from=john.dillon892@googlemail.com; helo=mail-ee0-f45.google.com; Received: from mail-ee0-f45.google.com ([74.125.83.45]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1UYyjl-0004y8-Qo for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 05 May 2013 13:12:23 +0000 Received: by mail-ee0-f45.google.com with SMTP id l10so1337805eei.4 for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>; Sun, 05 May 2013 06:12:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.14.214.130 with SMTP id c2mr47027930eep.19.1367759535391; Sun, 05 May 2013 06:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.101.82 with HTTP; Sun, 5 May 2013 06:12:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <CA+8xBpfK_3zuJ7B6ddjNACNfi358f2uenhM6H+u2f24_QpUFmA@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAPg+sBjSe23eADMxu-1mx0Kg2LGkN+BSNByq0PtZcMxAMh0uTg@mail.gmail.com> <CANEZrP3FA-5z3gAC1aYbG2EOKM2eDyv7zX3S9+ia2ZJ0LPkKiA@mail.gmail.com> <CAPg+sBjz8SbqU=2YXrXzwzmvz+NUbokD6KbPwZ5QAXSqCdi++g@mail.gmail.com> <CANEZrP2X9A0kBvN8=+G+dn_uqbSYfNhw7dm4od_yfJqDUoxHWg@mail.gmail.com> <CAPg+sBgz2pLOkc3WL1sG3pJpdVqUZRwEfO9YaC-62vQyWLLW2Q@mail.gmail.com> <CANEZrP2aaOyv4U12-moux--OhZQdK7rXC24YN61o6LQ0a+bK6g@mail.gmail.com> <20130503141801.GA1301@petertodd.org> <CANEZrP0mRW-QW60JJmon3ATuoTGnZSFFMne9Dv7FnVnP49GXbQ@mail.gmail.com> <20130503151157.GA3902@petertodd.org> <CAPaL=UX8S3Sa-eCfCkYuVSa+QG=XCpTb+=aofJXns6BOqxpcgA@mail.gmail.com> <CA+8xBpfK_3zuJ7B6ddjNACNfi358f2uenhM6H+u2f24_QpUFmA@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 13:12:15 +0000 Message-ID: <CAPaL=UVhzxosx0yW8ODM=QKcbJuwCHNY6hzoKiiAnmAhHNtwaw@mail.gmail.com> From: John Dillon <john.dillon892@googlemail.com> To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@exmulti.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (john.dillon892[at]googlemail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (john.dillon892[at]googlemail.com) -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1UYyjl-0004y8-Qo Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Service bits for pruned nodes X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 13:12:23 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Sorry I should have used the word bootstrapping there rather than discovery. But again I think that shows my point clearly. Centralized methods like DNS should be used for as little as possible, just simple initial bootstrapping, and focus the development efforts towards the non-centralized peer discovery mechanisms. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJRhlpyAAoJEEWCsU4mNhiP+NwH/3RY5vBpSYkwKgTmdKHRc/gw BJCSV/1MEDECgBTxaRYSzYZyargjsdG50KaIaCq8M1+8DWkBEkH8JFif7UYMlZGM WROMP6UjAnP1fJ3B2JChdMgRv1HdXJQDQVcO8UnSJschhX8lZZiUySbaqIPuRuV/ lI7/JkUZvmnms4+HGiaqwfbPO0k6ytJNKxORrk4TzFnThh4dy9WytElc8JHZOFaQ ly159X5JuEwh8DLOoUtPhaR6tJaJbJLBEt+QJiGnSktPsJCE8p9+4HQ0kMCQr3Ha 05EHTZEw+TqEPaA7vFLgA/9tWjK9s1Y6sqLOAYiLp/0wSKzCkBO0C5LWFHsJ/XQ= =aCgi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----