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Tue, 28 Jun 2022 19:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B5B015F908; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 19:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 19:20:27 -0400 From: Peter Todd To: Billy Tetrud Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0pidzsD06Dax64o9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin covenants are inevitable X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 23:20:32 -0000 --0pidzsD06Dax64o9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 10:55:56PM -0500, Billy Tetrud wrote: > @Eric > > People who transact are realizing the benefit of money - the avoidance > of barter costs. >=20 > I'm very confident you're incorrect that holders don't receive any benefit > and you're certainly not correct that every spend is receiving the same > benefit. As I'm sure you're aware, one of the primary components of a > currency's value and purpose is as a store of value. Storing value happens > while you're holding it, not while you're spending it. Consider the > following two scenarios: one person holds onto 10 bitcoin for 10 years and > then spends those 10 bitcoins in some way in 2 transactions. Another pers= on > spends 4 bitcoins to buy something, then sells it for 6 bitcoins, and then > buys something else for that 6 bitcoins and then never acquires any bitco= in > for 10 years. >=20 > Both people spent 10 bitcoins over 2 transactions. Over that 10 year > period, only one of those people utilized bitcoin's utility as a store of > value. Who benefited more from their use of bitcoin? Notice how people frequenty bring up the fact that if you divide the total block reward by the number of transactions, the cost per transaction is fai= rly high - on the order of tens of dollars. This makes much more sense when you realize that the average value moved per transaction is also very high - thousands of dollars - making the cost due = to inflation of those tens of dollars transactions low enough to be affordable. --=20 https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org --0pidzsD06Dax64o9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE0RcYcKRzsEwFZ3N5Lly11TVRLzcFAmK7jLgACgkQLly11TVR LzeagxAAg6vK1onrGAA5NZeO8u0Y0yPlmfVcknT8txU0yn3wEey4a1L+eDybiXFi dgfEjS7MEivUGnwsAzUf1I3HVI/bQ6bkviDaU8YaMKpIdYrAkpgLlgckQVhgCZwV +eTCrCj8oiYgbJ4nIoi0VK3HxJtjbAQiOqI7RSbIFbfHViR5omjVKQqQDIwQ0zNG iXcZdYcczRHV8XGIs/YkEkZPNo0WORwHa53GQqxivIfNEA6DCeaIGfRJdejHDYam QXDCTBvE930AZ+Ru3ZOepJnb0Aj4NUhU9zUfyRfkHZQ8zudyA4+TsLwciulE+XrM R8yF+wea+z3SjjtHx9tkRSihVFkw5uUivkNYaTjuKrTK87dIkGv1rmBL7mOqhwFk OAjFN3fWtYd7mlUC04bu7U68IAKWy50pmXl1ew2RZpNt3TJJ2xjPa8HkoWT7+o4W BXkQF8bGGFYafssMXnbGZnwk9ofUSQd0I+eyzSd48N+KOgEmzmeRh8vU/qDHxuJZ s2/3QXe9dwQHrS+H1cFDAjfQFUv210uybeyTjMvjkphIQTYsKCla4WZGsXBT8SlA BVKY0byZC+tQZT8pW0FtIba6PO1oa6641Lhq27+Ryv3MaEdSOQDoI55VEEwJWblT PXqoPM9DVjRoIqAX6wvWFv7TdfDqOOuPV527ho+tYEKJRkRH1hw= =cF4K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0pidzsD06Dax64o9--