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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] CTV Meeting #5 Agenda (Tuesday, March 7th,
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Since this has meetings like taproot, it seems it's going to end up being
added in bitcoin core no matter what.

Should we start the conversation on how to resist it when that happens?
We should talk more about activation mechanisms and how users should be
able to actively resist them more.


On Tue, Mar 8, 2022, 03:32 Jeremy Rubin via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> * Tuesday, March 8th.
>
> I think Noon PT == 8pm UTC?
>
> but dont trust me i cant even tell what day is what.
> --
> @JeremyRubin <https://twitter.com/JeremyRubin>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 6:50 PM Jeremy Rubin <jeremy.l.rubin@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> There will be a CTV meeting tomorrow at noon PT. Agenda below:
>>
>> 1) Sapio Taproot Support Update / Request for Review (20 Minutes)
>>     - Experimental support for Taproot merged on master
>> https://github.com/sapio-lang/sapio
>> 2) Transaction Sponsoring v.s CPFP/RBF (20 Minutes)
>>     -
>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2022-February/019879.html
>>     -
>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2020-September/018168.html
>> 3) Jamesob's Non-Recursive Vaults Post (20 minutes)
>>     -
>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2022-March/020067.html
>> 4) What the heck is everyone talking about on the mailing list all of the
>> sudden (30 minutes)
>>     - EVICT, TLUV, FOLD, Lisp, OP_ANNEX, Drivechain Covenants, Jets, Etc
>> 5) Q&A (30 mins)
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> --
>> @JeremyRubin <https://twitter.com/JeremyRubin>
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Since this has meetings like taproot, it seems it&#39;s g=
oing to end up being added in bitcoin core no matter what.<div dir=3D"auto"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Should we start the conversation on how to res=
ist it when that happens?</div><div dir=3D"auto">We should talk more about =
activation mechanisms and how users should be able to actively resist them =
more.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 8, 2022, 03:32 Jeremy Ru=
bin via bitcoin-dev &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation=
.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">*=
 Tuesday, March 8th.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font=
-size:small;color:#000000">I think Noon PT =3D=3D 8pm UTC?</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">but dont =
trust me i cant even tell what day is what.</div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data=
-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">--<br><a href=3D"https://tw=
itter.com/JeremyRubin" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">@JeremyRubin</a=
><br></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 6:50 PM Jeremy Rubin &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:jeremy.l.rubin@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer">jeremy.l.rubin@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;borde=
r-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Hi all,</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">The=
re will be a CTV meeting tomorrow at noon PT. Agenda below:</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default">1) Sapio Taproot Support Update / Request for Rev=
iew (20 Minutes)</div><div class=3D"gmail_default">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Experime=
ntal support for Taproot merged on master=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.co=
m/sapio-lang/sapio" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://github.com=
/sapio-lang/sapio</a></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">2) Tra=
nsaction Sponsoring v.s CPFP/RBF (20 Minutes)</div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:=
rgb(0,0,0)">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.o=
rg/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2022-February/019879.html" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/202=
2-February/019879.html</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 -=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoi=
n-dev/2020-September/018168.html" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">http=
s://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2020-September/018168.h=
tml</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvet=
ica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">3) Jamesob&#39;s Non-Recur=
sive Vaults Post (20 minutes)<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)=
">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/piperma=
il/bitcoin-dev/2022-March/020067.html" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"=
>https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2022-March/020067.=
html</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">4) What the heck is every=
one talking about on the mailing list all of the sudden (30 minutes)</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif=
;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - EVICT, TLUV, FOLD, Lisp,=
 OP_ANNEX, Drivechain Covenants, Jets, Etc</div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb=
(0,0,0)">5) Q&amp;A (30 mins)</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,san=
s-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Best,</div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:a=
rial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Jeremy</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">--<br><a href=3D"https://twitter.com/JeremyRubin"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">@JeremyRubin</a><br></div></div></div=
></div>
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