Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF8438A7 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 08:32:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2855B155 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 08:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZShk0-0007n0-MU for bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:32:00 +0200 Received: from f052203198.adsl.alicedsl.de ([78.52.203.198]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:32:00 +0200 Received: from andreas by f052203198.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:32:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org From: Andreas Schildbach Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:31:48 +0200 Message-ID: References: <55D6AD19.10305@mattcorallo.com> <20150821055534.GA27259@muck> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: f052203198.adsl.alicedsl.de User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 In-Reply-To: <20150821055534.GA27259@muck> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Revisiting NODE_BLOOM: Proposed BIP X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 08:32:07 -0000 On 08/21/2015 07:55 AM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev wrote: > 2) Bloom filter usage has declined significantly, as lite-SPV clients > are moving towards using centralized, trusted, servers run by the wallet > authors. For instance > [Mycelium](https://github.com/mycelium-com/wallet), > [GreenBits](https://github.com/greenaddress/GreenBits), > [AirBitz](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3etohn/whats_wrong_with_breadwallet/ctirou5), > and [Electrum](https://electrum.org/#home) all fall in this category. None of these wallets (except Electrum maybe) could gain a significant amount of new users during the last year or so, if you look at the stats of Google Play. Specifically Mycelium lost a significant amount of users during the last stress test when their centralized infrastructure was overloaded. As a consenquence, their developer announced on Reddit to try moving the wallet to SPV. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3db7qr/mycelium_servers_down/