Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from <john.dillon892@googlemail.com>) id 1UWeHw-0003YH-Av for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 02:58:00 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of googlemail.com designates 74.125.83.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.51; envelope-from=john.dillon892@googlemail.com; helo=mail-ee0-f51.google.com; Received: from mail-ee0-f51.google.com ([74.125.83.51]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1UWeHv-0003F6-HA for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 02:58:00 +0000 Received: by mail-ee0-f51.google.com with SMTP id c1so1451499eek.38 for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:57:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.15.101.200 with SMTP id bp48mr117244748eeb.38.1367204273185; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.72.141 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:57:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <CAAS2fgSo6Ua8giSKhYTjGm=2U1nBjprHOBqCL7dSNr9MQX_6tw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAPg+sBjSe23eADMxu-1mx0Kg2LGkN+BSNByq0PtZcMxAMh0uTg@mail.gmail.com> <CANEZrP3FA-5z3gAC1aYbG2EOKM2eDyv7zX3S9+ia2ZJ0LPkKiA@mail.gmail.com> <CAAS2fgSo6Ua8giSKhYTjGm=2U1nBjprHOBqCL7dSNr9MQX_6tw@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 02:57:53 +0000 Message-ID: <CAPaL=UUhrb+4CANVB6refCOeQwcf_A80Way_C_oJbDKM9kmWXg@mail.gmail.com> From: John Dillon <john.dillon892@googlemail.com> To: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (john.dillon892[at]googlemail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (john.dillon892[at]googlemail.com) -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1UWeHv-0003F6-HA Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Service bits for pruned nodes X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 02:58:00 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 > But I also agree that its important that <everything> be splittable into = ranges > because otherwise when having to choose between serving historic data > and=97 say=97 40 GB storage, a great many are going to choose not to serv= e > historic data... and so nodes may be willing to contribute 4-39 GB storag= e > to the network there will be no good way for them to do so and we may end > up with too few copies of the historic data available. Have we considered just leaving that problem to a different protocol such a= s BitTorrent? Offering up a few GB of storage capacity is a nice idea but it means we would soon have to add structure to the network to allow nodes to = find each other to actually get that data. BitTorrent already has that issue tho= ught through carefully with it's DHT support. What are the logistics of either integrating a DHT capable BitTorrent clien= t, or just calling out to some library? We could still use the Bitcoin network= to bootstrap the BitTorrent DHT. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJRfeF/AAoJEEWCsU4mNhiP228H+gIiBhOf65ydmVXoq7d6toNt FmWZaHUxAKtdADINqKHKjuCVGb+3RITwZIgQ0t2MO3OlG1FRFzZv841QBmdaW7JI B6uF2hBxw6oy3GolzIbSUBX+7VyoNvFGT9c548wfLWC71O7A9/Wf3dUssN6VdWXG zm2vTO8cnMOHNt0Iu4uRw5mvOOU6WV9f6k3BsnQEK8y8E3w1k8xZIrHMqCo99B5U a0R2TOpIyK++8xz3Ls1johcFcfwkphESn8SIxMeyb/sgotxO23yqQNDqn8rDCD4S PxVY/yzpftinjR55bvvjRGDVkUY43ixU8t7lFOgI1vwmfRw4jBqk7WWYJK7jC6c=3D =3D0VmS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----