Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Z1lLz-0005SK-RO for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 08 Jun 2015 00:55:51 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.220.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.46; envelope-from=gappleto97@gmail.com; helo=mail-pa0-f46.google.com; Received: from mail-pa0-f46.google.com ([209.85.220.46]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1Z1lLy-0005Oh-0A for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 08 Jun 2015 00:55:51 +0000 Received: by pabqy3 with SMTP id qy3so84355131pab.3 for ; Sun, 07 Jun 2015 17:55:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.249.168 with SMTP id yv8mr25236404pac.49.1433724944192; Sun, 07 Jun 2015 17:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.194.168 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Jun 2015 17:55:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <556CDB09.8050906@henricson.se> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 20:55:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: gabe appleton To: Pindar Wong Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b111c0f011ae50517f71a13 X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (gappleto97[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (gappleto97[at]gmail.com) 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1Z1lLy-0005Oh-0A Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Meta suggestions for this block size debate X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 00:55:51 -0000 --047d7b111c0f011ae50517f71a13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Just pushed the template for Arguments 3, 4, 6, and a full Argument 2. Argument 5 should be pro, but is currently not defined. Argument 6 may be merged with Argument 4 if you think that's necessary. On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 2:41 AM, gabe appleton wrote: > Nothing to apologize for. And yes, that's the correct one. > On Jun 6, 2015 2:39 AM, "Pindar Wong" wrote: > >> OK... sorry for my confusion. >> >> https://github.com/EthanHeilman/BlockSizeDebate >> >> it is. >> >> p. >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 2:37 PM, gabe appleton >> wrote: >> >>> Please use the one it's originally forked from that Ethan made. I don't >>> want to be the one who sorts through what's valid and what isn't, as I >>> don't have as low-level an understanding as I'd like. I don't feel >>> qualified. >>> On Jun 6, 2015 2:34 AM, "Pindar Wong" wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Gabe. >>>> >>>> https://github.com/gappleto97/BlockSizeDebate >>>> >>>> github's reachable via vpn. >>>> >>>> p. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 2:28 PM, gabe appleton >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah. We made a git repo instead, so we don't have to bother with the >>>>> exclusive-by-default wiki policies. It's linked in this email chain. >>>>> >>>>> I'll be getting home tomorrow, so I should be able to start back up on >>>>> this. A few days from now we should throw this on /r/Bitcoin so we can get >>>>> some more public comment on it. They already gave me a few leads to chase. >>>>> On Jun 5, 2015 11:34 PM, "Pindar Wong" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Gabe, >>>>>> >>>>>> Did you ever get an answer to this? >>>>>> >>>>>> I"ll have some time tomorrow to be able to help with some work on >>>>>> this and will need to do it myself anyways since I'm not sure I understand >>>>>> the nuances, where bitcoin XT fits into the scheme of things (or not) etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would have thought that there would be a testnet4 by now using 8mb >>>>>> blocks... but hey that's just me. >>>>>> >>>>>> p. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 11:52 AM, gabe appleton >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't have permission to create a page. If someone else does, I'll >>>>>>> happily get a framework started. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Ethan Heilman >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I second this, I don't have time to read the large number of emails >>>>>>>> generated every day from the block size debate. A summary of the various >>>>>>>> positions and arguments would be extremely helpful. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:02 PM, gabe appleton < >>>>>>>> gappleto97@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also, can we try to get a wiki page for the debate? That way we >>>>>>>>> could condense the information as much as possible. I'll be willing to >>>>>>>>> assist if the page gets approval. >>>>>>>>> On Jun 1, 2015 6:41 PM, "Mats Henricson" >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My fingers have been itching many times now, this debate >>>>>>>>>> drives me nuts. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I just wish all posters could follow two simple principles: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Read up. Yes. All of what has been written. Yes, it will >>>>>>>>>> take many hours. But if you're rehashing what other >>>>>>>>>> smarter people have said over and over before, you're >>>>>>>>>> wasting hundreds of peoples time. Please don't. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2. Be helpful. Suggest alternatives. Just cristizising is >>>>>>>>>> just destructive. If you want no change, then say so. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mats >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Bitcoin-development mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Bitcoin-development mailing list >>>>>>>>> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Bitcoin-development mailing list >>>>>>> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> --047d7b111c0f011ae50517f71a13 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just pushed the template for Arguments 3, 4, 6, and a full= Argument 2.=C2=A0 Argument 5 should be pro, but is currently not defined. = Argument 6 may be merged with Argument 4 if you think that's necessary.=

On Sat, Jun= 6, 2015 at 2:41 AM, gabe appleton <gappleto97@gmail.com>= wrote:

Nothing to apologi= ze for. And yes, that's the correct one.

On Jun 6, 2015 2:39 AM, "Pindar Wong" = <pindar.wong@= gmail.com> wrote:
it= is.

p.


On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 2:37 PM, gabe appleton <gapplet= o97@gmail.com> wrote:

Please use the one it's originally forked from that Ethan mad= e. I don't want to be the one who sorts through what's valid and wh= at isn't, as I don't have as low-level an understanding as I'd = like. I don't feel qualified.

On Jun 6, 2015 2:34 AM, "Pindar Wong" = <pindar.wong@= gmail.com> wrote:
github's reachable via vpn.
p.


On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 2:28 PM, gabe appleton &= lt;gappleto97@gma= il.com> wrote:

Yeah. We made a git repo instead, so we don't have to bother with th= e exclusive-by-default wiki policies. It's linked in this email chain. =

I'll be getting home tomorrow, so I should be able to st= art back up on this. A few days from now we should throw this on /r/Bitcoin= so we can get some more public comment on it. They already gave me a few l= eads to chase.

On Jun 5, 2015 11:34 PM, "Pindar Wong"= <pindar.wong= @gmail.com> wrote:
Gabe,

Did you ever get an ans= wer to this?

I"ll have some time tomorrow to be able to help wi= th some work on this and will need to do it myself anyways since I'm no= t sure I understand the nuances, where bitcoin XT fits into the scheme of t= hings (or not) etc.

I would have thought that there would= be a testnet4 by now using 8mb blocks... but hey that's just me.
<= br>
p.




<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 11:52 AM, gabe appleton <gappleto97@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't have permission to create a page. If some= one else does, I'll happily get a framework started.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 = at 11:32 PM, Ethan Heilman <eth3rs@gmail.com> wrote:
I second this, I don't have = time to read the large number of emails generated every day from the block = size debate. A summary of the various positions and arguments would be extr= emely helpful.=C2=A0

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:02 PM, gabe appleton <gapp= leto97@gmail.com> wrote:
Also, can we try to get a wiki page for the debate? That way w= e could condense the information as much as possible. I'll be willing t= o assist if the page gets approval.

On Jun 1, 2015 6:41 PM, "Mats Henricson&quo= t; <mats@henricso= n.se> wrote:
= Hi!

My fingers have been itching many times now, this debate
drives me nuts.

I just wish all posters could follow two simple principles:

1. Read up. Yes. All of what has been written. Yes, it will
=C2=A0 =C2=A0take many hours. But if you're rehashing what other
=C2=A0 =C2=A0smarter people have said over and over before, you're
=C2=A0 =C2=A0wasting hundreds of peoples time. Please don't.

2. Be helpful. Suggest alternatives. Just cristizising is
=C2=A0 =C2=A0just destructive. If you want no change, then say so.

Mats

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