Return-Path: Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org (smtp3.osuosl.org [140.211.166.136]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805AFC0032 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2023 23:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8DB60B1D for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2023 23:09:01 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp3.osuosl.org 5B8DB60B1D Authentication-Results: smtp3.osuosl.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key, unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=fm3 header.b=fITmVfPU X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp3.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cZ8G7NszPSzW for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2023 23:09:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.20]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8669E60A5A for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2023 23:09:00 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp3.osuosl.org 8669E60A5A Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BC832009DE; Tue, 7 Nov 2023 18:08:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 07 Nov 2023 18:08:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t=1699398539; x=1699484939; bh=9QBtwSfOmXFa1 JC6C5ui62C3bLTYsTO4Xcp1qfGySYc=; b=fITmVfPUdzQQwX3DqbupwlbpwRclF qiVBwOXFfoWqekpHR3U8lPm+m6R80qHsXz2E3/SW9JEzm4nbzg3DIrSGjE1wqMGP Ox3s+IauIIQArLAPFjgdyo/cgTif/Ap8QZ5Ma6bZIifO4U+eLjcz4FUL+KwTnfQb MeR66IiRnqqnVylDaJHvRENqWCw8nA1lU1NaEClFcq91GDGPPhhutefonKUIU/cd dP2hlPvf9FZDfu+R1sAXCh2umcEBkuAT8x0km3SJClHkdVrDv/6ihAutw2E70T6s lg1725Z9EtCLZSE7Vs3DgKKIwWbR5B2XF7+sWNU3ihZ7LWAmdv0criz0A== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvkedruddukedgtdeiucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtre ertddtvdenucfhrhhomheprfgvthgvrhcuvfhougguuceophgvthgvsehpvghtvghrthho uggurdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeeivddvleeikeejueekgfdtleefgeehhe elffeuheetgefhleevjeefleegvefffeenucffohhmrghinhepphgvthgvrhhtohguugdr ohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpe hpvghtvgesphgvthgvrhhtohguugdrohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i525146e8:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 7 Nov 2023 18:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7AB525F81E; Tue, 7 Nov 2023 23:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2023 23:08:58 +0000 From: Peter Todd To: Bryan Bishop , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9y3dST+OoxJ9cnvd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Future of the bitcoin-dev mailing list X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2023 23:09:01 -0000 --9y3dST+OoxJ9cnvd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 09:37:22AM -0600, Bryan Bishop via bitcoin-dev wrot= e: > Anti spam has been an issue for the moderators. It's relentless. Without > access to the underlying server, it has been difficult to fight spam. The= re > is some support for filters in mailman2 but it's not great. Since this is a technical mailing list it would be fine to require people to pay a non-refundable anti-spam fee, eg via lightning, to gain the ability to send messages. While this would require some custom software, it's probably even possible to implement this if a third party is used for hosting, provi= ded they have some kind of API. --=20 https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org --9y3dST+OoxJ9cnvd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE0RcYcKRzsEwFZ3N5Lly11TVRLzcFAmVKw4cACgkQLly11TVR LzedDQ/7BeGEV2Qx9fnry8Z7vx/qggBpDPIC5YWgjOFPdhuqhl04VjCbtEmjhDlN cEhqXF93Yt8r8592+iSewf5dXvoAjDU4ie9P+rCwN+pBzdvR/T9GKjcUljfSaRAc 98IFnYoXiQOZfoNpLe7c9WYkb6byisfCW5le7nltJU8QKMYGkZ0hNx2a/K+yMZ4Y h8fq0otz1mrMRqyURDNmywgtLKjCE1UVwKLSJpPbqwPGWD8fHxr/KkLa7sSYJyP5 y+BQCtsOmCkF2tc/MJ4W0REXVk/HZGuN7gfaoAtBXHIeURL3uQaw7pg4KTSoRMeZ 85fxwFU+Y3/1f0cxWIWnriaQKo+qbOEkaysyVZwQ3tYKhwJ76pkHvoMfRel91TU0 IL4S/lzGUwlCZZkLNRmqnI/fyHJBOtAnly1thpFJzbluoYPX+b2H8KDLSzB+k/rG Kn9t9cqEKiTiFnek/WCl1vXcTVYECBEzDXuCQB8tK9orHhykOOiecSe6EGMDgpF6 ms2m+kIy2CcWfQN4erdyqWWA5WPrR1efOt11wBjS5YqFDacw1whzHtopu6J9WSjp WgBn1wwy7DorFajmbY2ZpgwmKgxfebbn6jSmkmXFzw6UXSfqElyBNfKq2/1w+LKb Uk1SBJWV3cTHuC3u2Wiv0HwPJq2k65Kl6v8xlW7NFrSf4XcDazk= =NCPG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9y3dST+OoxJ9cnvd--