Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R3rcf-0008Ma-LU for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:43:37 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from zinan.dashjr.org ([173.242.112.54]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1R3rce-0001Yb-RW for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:43:37 +0000 Received: from ishibashi.localnet (fl-184-4-160-40.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [184.4.160.40]) (Authenticated sender: luke-jr) by zinan.dashjr.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 413E2204026; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:43:31 +0000 (UTC) From: "Luke-Jr" To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:43:20 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.39-gentoo; KDE/4.6.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <4E6F83C3.9020108@jerviss.org> In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: CE5A D56A 36CC 69FA E7D2 3558 665F C11D D53E 9583 X-PGP-Key-ID: 665FC11DD53E9583 X-PGP-Keyserver: x-hkp://subkeys.pgp.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201109141143.24165.luke@dashjr.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -0.5 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Headers-End: 1R3rce-0001Yb-RW Cc: kjj Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Difficulty adjustment / time issues X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:43:37 -0000 On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:45:36 AM Gavin Andresen wrote: > The block timestamp rules currently give HOURS of wiggle-room for > timestamps. We can't change those rules without risking a chain split. And those hours of wiggle-room are not enough to cause a problem. The problem only comes in (AFAIK) when the existing rules are *not* enforced. > Assuming a majority of pools/miners adopt the "discourage blocks with > stale timestamps" rule, that should squash any incentive for cartels > to try to start playing with difficulty-- you would have to have 50+% > power to start, or you risk producing mostly orphan blocks. As this is against pools/miners' interests, and doesn't seem to solve any real problems, I'm going to discourage its adoption if it ever gets done.