Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UeaiA-0006U6-G4 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 21 May 2013 00:45:54 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of quinnharris.me designates 67.223.164.214 as permitted sender) client-ip=67.223.164.214; envelope-from=btcdev@quinnharris.me; helo=fza.durangomail.com; Received: from fza.durangomail.com ([67.223.164.214]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1Ueai8-0000qB-T4 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 21 May 2013 00:45:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fza.durangomail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856831EAFDD for ; Mon, 20 May 2013 18:45:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at fza.durangomail.com Received: from fza.durangomail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fza.durangomail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s2gzEo6YoMAF for ; Mon, 20 May 2013 18:45:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fza.durangomail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D821EAFFF for ; Mon, 20 May 2013 18:45:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at fza.durangomail.com Received: from fza.durangomail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fza.durangomail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id UaN9XUJ_RseP for ; Mon, 20 May 2013 18:45:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.74] (172-3-184-238.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [172.3.184.238]) by fza.durangomail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57F261EAFDD for ; Mon, 20 May 2013 18:45:30 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <519AC3A8.1020306@quinnharris.me> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 18:45:28 -0600 From: Quinn Harris User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130510 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Headers-End: 1Ueai8-0000qB-T4 Subject: [Bitcoin-development] Double Spend Notification X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:45:54 -0000 The current BitCoin implementation is subject to relatively easy double spend attack for 0 confirmation payments. Yet 0 confirmation payments are needed for typical in person transactions like most purchases at a local business. Notably, it is easy to transmit two transactions from the same output at the same time to different sets of nodes on the network by using two instances of bitcoind with same wallet file and a spend on each daemon initiated by RPC by some easy to implement code. If the first attempt to pay the merchant doesn't go through because they received the "wrong" transaction it could be quickly followed up with another initiated spend from a different output switching which daemon sends the transaction the merchant is expecting. This means an unsophisticated attacker can reliably get away with this attack and it would be worth while for small transactions. Given this, I would be reluctant to trust 0 confirmation transactions at all though I think many do in practice. Someone could write and publish a special daemon to execute this attack further reducing the cost. Right now a node will drop any second spend of the same output in the memory pool. After the first transaction has propagated through the network issuing a second double spend transaction isn't likely to be seen by a significant number of miners as most nodes especially non miner nodes will drop this transaction. Today, it is necessary to transmit both transactions on the network nearly simultaneously to reliably get away with this simple attack. If in this case, the receiving end is quickly notified of the double spend this attack becomes more more difficult to get away with. If the second transaction is relayed instead of being dropped to notify the receiving party of the double spend, most miners will receive both transactions and it is possible that some or even many of the miners would replace the first transaction with the second if it has a higher fee as it would be in their short term interest. This can happen some time after the first transaction has propagated through the network so the receiving end wouldn't get a timely notification of the double spend. Depending on the choices of the miners, this approach to double spend notification could exacerbate the very problem it was attempting to fix compared to the current implementation. While miners might continue to drop the second spends, the easy availability of the second spends would increase the short term reward for changing this policy. This problem can be fixed if instead of sending the second transaction a new double spend message is sent with proof of the double spend but not the complete transactions. This would allow the receiving end to be quickly notified of a double spend while in no way increase the chance over the current implementation that a double spend would be successful. The proof of the double spend would include the scriptSig (input) from the original transactions and the hashes from the "simplified" transaction used by OP_CHECKSIG of the scriptPubKey (output) but not the entire transaction. This is the hash computed by the SignatureHash function in script.cpp. The double spend notification message should contain proofs of both signed transaction spending the same output ordered by hash to produce a canonical proof for a specific two transactions. To reduce DOS potential, the proof should not be relayed unless one of the original transactions has been received to ensure there is some commitment to the block chain and different double spend proofs of the same output should not be relayed. The forwarding of transactions should remain exactly the same as it is now where the second transaction is dropped but a double spend message is transmitted if appropriate. The existing block chain needs to be checked to make sure the proof of double spend couldn't have been derived from the block chain and a single spend in the memory pool. This could happen if there was already an identical transaction in the block chain. This would typically only happen if someone was paying someone else the same amount they had before and neither side changed addresses. In this case double spend detection wouldn't be reliable as it could be generated by anyone, but both the sending and receiving client could detect this situation and warn the user. It would still be possible for an attacker to send the second transaction directly to powerful miners but this is a distinctly less viable attack than the current double spend attack. I would expect this double spend notification implementation to make double spends more costly than they are worth for most cases today that 0 confirmation acceptance is needed. That said over time this provision might become less effective. As the reward for each block mined decreases, transactions fees will become a more significant part of the mining reward accordingly increasing the incentive to replace transactions with higher fees. Today most BitCoin participants have a high expectation of significant future appreciation of BitCoins and recognize anything that brings into question the integrity of the system is likely to reduce that future value so they have a long term self interest to keep up the impression of integrity. As BitCoin becomes more establish this incentive will decrease. On the other hand, non mining nodes have no incentive to replace by fee. The continued increased capital costs of mining would likely increase the proportion of non mining nodes typically run by those with an incentive to assure integrity of the network such as merchants. But increasing transaction volume is likely to increase node costs which would push out non mining nodes with lower incentive more than mining nodes. Accordingly increasing block size would have a tendency to reduce the effectiveness of double spend notification. The primary point is there are multiple counteracting forces that make predicting the future effectiveness of double spend notification uncertain. I don't believe this necessary warrants conceding that we can not provide any protection from non trusted 0 confirmations transaction as a replace by fee implementation would do. But it would still be important to work towards more robust solutions notably various forms of 3rd party trust. This could be tamper resistant devices trusted to not duplicate spends, 3rd party certificates with proof the transaction was spent by the holder of the certificate or multi signature transactions on the block chain that must be signed by a trusted 3rd party to spend. I would expect it would take significantly longer for the companies and technologies to be built to implement this on a wide scale than adding double spend proof messages to the current implementation. In addition, there will likely always be some use cases where a 3rd party (centralization) is not viable. Should a BIP and pull request implementing a double spend notification as described be accepted? - Quinn