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I'd support Atak, Bishop, or Somsen, fwiw.=20

On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 5:12:16=E2=80=AFPM UTC Michael Folkson wrote:

> +1 on Kanzure and RubenSomsen
>
> I would put my name forward if Kanzure, RubenSomsen weren't willing to do=
=20
> it and I was concerned about who it might be. I don't think it should be=
=20
> someone the Bitcoin dev community isn't familiar with and hasn't proven=
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> themselves over a long period of time like Kanzure, RubenSomsen have. The=
re=20
> is the opportunity for a new BIP editor to cause chaos if they were of th=
e=20
> wrong temperament and weren't willing to acknowledge opposing views and=
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> perspectives. Both Kanzure and RubenSomsen have proved over a long period=
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> of time that although they have their own personal views (like anyone els=
e)=20
> they won't censor transcripts of presentations or emails to the bitcoin-d=
ev=20
> mailing list that contain opposing views to their own. I'm not sure if an=
y=20
> of the other candidates putting themselves forward here tick the same box=
es=20
> as Kanzure and RubenSomsen. I also don't think BIP editors should be Luke=
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> Dashjr's personal fiefdom even though overall I personally think Luke has=
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> done an excellent job over many years as BIP editor in sometimes difficul=
t=20
> circumstances.
>
> Thanks
> Michael
>
> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 7:27:57=E2=80=AFPM UTC Ava Chow wrote:
>
>> Hi All,=20
>>
>> Following on the recent [discussion][1] about BIP process friction, and=
=20
>> admissions from Luke that he has not had the time to actively work on=20
>> the BIPs repo ([2], [3]), I think it is prudent for us to look at adding=
=20
>> more BIPs editors. These people would have the same permissions and=20
>> responsibilities that Luke has, i.e. can assign BIP numbers, merge PRs=
=20
>> adding new BIPs, merge PRs to fix existing BIPs,and all other=20
>> responsibilities as described in [BIP 2][4]. I think this would=20
>> significantly help get through the backlog of BIPs PRs, and responding=
=20
>> to them in a timely manner to significantly reduce the friction of=20
>> getting BIPs changes merged. Of course, this would require that all BIP=
=20
>> editors agree on the numbering scheme so that BIPs continue to be=20
>> numbered consistently.=20
>>
>> Considering the responsibilities of these tasks, I think any new BIP=20
>> editors should be people who have a history of following and being=20
>> involved in Bitcoin development, as well as being known to evaluate=20
>> proposals objectively, and of course, are willing to do the job. With=20
>> that in mind, I think both Kanzure and RubenSomsen are very good=20
>> candidates to be BIP editors, and having both of them working on the=20
>> BIPs repo would greatly benefit all of us.=20
>>
>> Thanks,=20
>> Ava=20
>>
>> [1]:=20
>>
>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2024-January/022=
289.html=20
>> [2]:=20
>>
>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2024-January/022=
291.html=20
>> [3]: https://twitter.com/LukeDashjr/status/1761127972302459000=20
>> [4]:=20
>>
>> https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0002.mediawiki#user-cont=
ent-BIP_Editor_Responsibilities__Workflow=20
>>
>>

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I'd support Atak, Bishop, or Somsen, fwiw.=C2=A0<div><br /></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sunday, March 10=
, 2024 at 5:12:16=E2=80=AFPM UTC Michael Folkson wrote:<br/></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 0.8ex; border-left: 1px sol=
id rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">+1 on Kanzure and RubenSomsen<di=
v><br></div><div>I would put my name forward if Kanzure, RubenSomsen weren&=
#39;t willing to do it and I was concerned about who it might be. I don&#39=
;t think it should be someone the Bitcoin dev community isn&#39;t familiar =
with and hasn&#39;t proven themselves over a long period of time like Kanzu=
re, RubenSomsen have. There is the opportunity for a new BIP editor to caus=
e chaos if they were of the wrong temperament and weren&#39;t willing to ac=
knowledge opposing views and perspectives. Both Kanzure and RubenSomsen hav=
e proved over a long period of time that although they have their own perso=
nal views (like anyone else) they won&#39;t censor transcripts of presentat=
ions or emails to the bitcoin-dev mailing list that contain opposing views =
to their own. I&#39;m not sure if any of the other candidates putting thems=
elves forward here tick the same boxes as Kanzure and RubenSomsen. I also d=
on&#39;t think BIP editors should be Luke Dashjr&#39;s personal fiefdom eve=
n though overall I personally think Luke has done an excellent job over man=
y years as BIP editor in sometimes difficult circumstances.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Thanks</div><div>Michael<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 7:2=
7:57=E2=80=AFPM UTC Ava Chow wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd=
ing-left:1ex">Hi All,
<br>
<br>Following on the recent [discussion][1] about BIP process friction, and=
=20
<br>admissions from Luke that he has not had the time to actively work on=
=20
<br>the BIPs repo ([2], [3]), I think it is prudent for us to look at addin=
g=20
<br>more BIPs editors. These people would have the same permissions and=20
<br>responsibilities that Luke has, i.e. can assign BIP numbers, merge PRs=
=20
<br>adding new BIPs, merge PRs to fix existing BIPs,and all other=20
<br>responsibilities as described in [BIP 2][4]. I think this would=20
<br>significantly help get through the backlog of BIPs PRs, and responding=
=20
<br>to them in a timely manner to significantly reduce the friction of=20
<br>getting BIPs changes merged. Of course, this would require that all BIP=
=20
<br>editors agree on the numbering scheme so that BIPs continue to be=20
<br>numbered consistently.
<br>
<br>Considering the responsibilities of these tasks, I think any new BIP=20
<br>editors should be people who have a history of following and being=20
<br>involved in Bitcoin development, as well as being known to evaluate=20
<br>proposals objectively, and of course, are willing to do the job. With=
=20
<br>that in mind, I think both Kanzure and RubenSomsen are very good=20
<br>candidates to be BIP editors, and having both of them working on the=20
<br>BIPs repo would greatly benefit all of us.
<br>
<br>Thanks,
<br>Ava
<br>
<br>[1]:=20
<br><a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2024=
-January/022289.html" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" data-saferedirectu=
rl=3D"https://www.google.com/url?hl=3Den&amp;q=3Dhttps://lists.linuxfoundat=
ion.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2024-January/022289.html&amp;source=3Dgmail&a=
mp;ust=3D1710177974989000&amp;usg=3DAOvVaw0f7Buhl1zrSTvZyBW8o3bu">https://l=
ists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2024-January/022289.html</a>
<br>[2]:=20
<br><a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2024=
-January/022291.html" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" data-saferedirectu=
rl=3D"https://www.google.com/url?hl=3Den&amp;q=3Dhttps://lists.linuxfoundat=
ion.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2024-January/022291.html&amp;source=3Dgmail&a=
mp;ust=3D1710177974989000&amp;usg=3DAOvVaw39DncPVhidZ29Ajr78-XS1">https://l=
ists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2024-January/022291.html</a>
<br>[3]: <a href=3D"https://twitter.com/LukeDashjr/status/17611279723024590=
00" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" data-saferedirecturl=3D"https://www.=
google.com/url?hl=3Den&amp;q=3Dhttps://twitter.com/LukeDashjr/status/176112=
7972302459000&amp;source=3Dgmail&amp;ust=3D1710177974989000&amp;usg=3DAOvVa=
w3LeNVUDAwA0fTcEsRikr38">https://twitter.com/LukeDashjr/status/176112797230=
2459000</a>
<br>[4]:=20
<br><a href=3D"https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0002.mediawi=
ki#user-content-BIP_Editor_Responsibilities__Workflow" rel=3D"nofollow" tar=
get=3D"_blank" data-saferedirecturl=3D"https://www.google.com/url?hl=3Den&a=
mp;q=3Dhttps://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0002.mediawiki%23use=
r-content-BIP_Editor_Responsibilities__Workflow&amp;source=3Dgmail&amp;ust=
=3D1710177974989000&amp;usg=3DAOvVaw2_yY_GSBosX4jBZu23jfAI">https://github.=
com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0002.mediawiki#user-content-BIP_Editor_Res=
ponsibilities__Workflow</a>
<br>
<br></blockquote></div></blockquote></div>

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