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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 02:15:31 -0700
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From: "Warren Togami Jr." <wtogami@gmail.com>
To: Oliver Egginger <bitcoin@olivere.de>
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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork
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I honestly don't understand your position, but I get the sense that you are
suggesting Satoshi wouldn't be welcome to return if he wanted to be active
in development again?

Warren
On Aug 17, 2015 1:38 PM, "Oliver Egginger" <bitcoin@olivere.de> wrote:

> Am 17.08.2015 um 21:03 schrieb Warren Togami Jr.:
> > This bitcoin-dev list restarted with an empty subscriber list on June
> > 21st, 2015.  So whoever posted from satoshi@vistomail.com
> > <mailto:satoshi@vistomail.com> subscribed and verified the address
> > recently.  Do you propose that we manually approve new subscribers to
> > prevent these kind of "abuses" as you put it?
>
> I would simply block the creators old email addresses. Easy with
> Mailman. I thought that would be a good and easy approach, but maybe I'm
> wrong.
>
> Some believes it is possible that the email could be genuine. Some say
> that only the content is important. I have closely followed. An
> interesting discussion. Thank you all so far.
>
> But let's say the poster would be the real Satoshi. Would we discuss his
> posting if he would not claim to be Satoshi? There are a lot of smart
> people on this list, which publish occasionally quite useful ideas. But
> much of this is hardly the subject of greater discussion. Especially not
> when it comes to the blocksize. On this subject almost everything has
> been already said. But not yet by everyone. Especially not by Satoshi.
>
> Satoshi would have a decisive influence on the community. I'm sure. To
> say it does not matter who's talking is maybe genteelly but a little bit
> remote from everyday life. Or not? Satoshi is the creator. What he says
> is in the newspaper and is perceived by all. If he says it's okay to do
> nothing as long as we stand together, then people have the courage to do
> maybe something dangerous or something wrong. Then people only follow
> their hearts. Otherwise they follow their fear. It is a paradox of the
> human nature that some type of Dictatorship can make you free. I say
> some type, not any type. Enough said.
>
> - oliver
>
>

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<p dir=3D"ltr">I honestly don&#39;t understand your position, but I get the=
 sense that you are suggesting Satoshi wouldn&#39;t be welcome to return if=
 he wanted to be active in development again?</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Warren</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Aug 17, 2015 1:38 PM, &quot;Oliver Egginger&q=
uot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin@olivere.de">bitcoin@olivere.de</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Am 17.08.2015 =
um 21:03 schrieb Warren Togami Jr.:<br>
&gt; This bitcoin-dev list restarted with an empty subscriber list on June<=
br>
&gt; 21st, 2015.=C2=A0 So whoever posted from <a href=3D"mailto:satoshi@vis=
tomail.com">satoshi@vistomail.com</a><br>
&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:satoshi@vistomail.com">satoshi@vistomail.=
com</a>&gt; subscribed and verified the address<br>
&gt; recently.=C2=A0 Do you propose that we manually approve new subscriber=
s to<br>
&gt; prevent these kind of &quot;abuses&quot; as you put it?<br>
<br>
I would simply block the creators old email addresses. Easy with<br>
Mailman. I thought that would be a good and easy approach, but maybe I&#39;=
m<br>
wrong.<br>
<br>
Some believes it is possible that the email could be genuine. Some say<br>
that only the content is important. I have closely followed. An<br>
interesting discussion. Thank you all so far.<br>
<br>
But let&#39;s say the poster would be the real Satoshi. Would we discuss hi=
s<br>
posting if he would not claim to be Satoshi? There are a lot of smart<br>
people on this list, which publish occasionally quite useful ideas. But<br>
much of this is hardly the subject of greater discussion. Especially not<br=
>
when it comes to the blocksize. On this subject almost everything has<br>
been already said. But not yet by everyone. Especially not by Satoshi.<br>
<br>
Satoshi would have a decisive influence on the community. I&#39;m sure. To<=
br>
say it does not matter who&#39;s talking is maybe genteelly but a little bi=
t<br>
remote from everyday life. Or not? Satoshi is the creator. What he says<br>
is in the newspaper and is perceived by all. If he says it&#39;s okay to do=
<br>
nothing as long as we stand together, then people have the courage to do<br=
>
maybe something dangerous or something wrong. Then people only follow<br>
their hearts. Otherwise they follow their fear. It is a paradox of the<br>
human nature that some type of Dictatorship can make you free. I say<br>
some type, not any type. Enough said.<br>
<br>
- oliver<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>

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