Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC4788F5 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 22:25:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from outmail148107.authsmtp.com (outmail148107.authsmtp.com [62.13.148.107]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E20111D for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 22:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-c237.authsmtp.com (mail-c237.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.237]) by punt18.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id t7LMPp0p046119; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 23:25:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck (S0106e091f5827ad2.ok.shawcable.net [24.71.232.17]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id t7LMPkQG010252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 21 Aug 2015 23:25:49 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:25:46 -0700 From: Peter Todd To: Chris Pacia Message-ID: <20150821222545.GE7450@muck> References: <55D6AD19.10305@mattcorallo.com> <20150821055534.GA27259@muck> <20150821060716.GA31674@muck> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HB4mHL4PVvkpZAgW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Server-Quench: 9399358b-4853-11e5-9f75-002590a135d3 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aQdMdAMUGUATAgsB AmMbWVdeUlh7XGM7 aQ5PagRDYElMQQRt T01BRU1TWkFvfWFh XX9pUhhydQBENnZ4 bUUsV3NSVUd/fRRg RkZRFnAHZDJldWlJ V0VFdwNWdQpKLx5G bwR8GhFYa3VsNCMk FAgyOXU9MCtqYB5Y XAAWLE4TR0lDOBkQ aicoORIIOB9Nfz80 Nxs9J1JUNmcpWgAA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1024:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 24.71.232.17/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Revisiting NODE_BLOOM: Proposed BIP X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 22:25:54 -0000 --HB4mHL4PVvkpZAgW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 06:15:16PM -0400, Chris Pacia wrote: > On Aug 21, 2015 2:07 AM, "Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev" < > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: >=20 > > Also, as I mentioned, just look at the popularity of wallets such as > > Mycelium that are not adopting bloom filters, but going with SPV > > verification of block headers w/ lookup servers. >=20 > Related I recently had a conversation with a Mycelium employee who told me > they were considering moving to spv/bloom because of the server issues > Andreas mentioned. >=20 > I don't know any more about their plans, but I wouldn't assume the above > statement to be correct. That'd be a foolish design decision to move exclusively over; their wallet was safe to use during the recent fork, unlike Android Wallet, precisely because of their existing design. In any case, regardless of whether we're wrong about the popularity issue, I've yet to see any issues raised with implementing NODE_BLOOM that will adversely affect such wallets - we've certainly got no shortage of node capacity to go around. --=20 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org 00000000000000000402fe6fb9ad613c93e12bddfc6ec02a2bd92f002050594d --HB4mHL4PVvkpZAgW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGrBAEBCACVBQJV16VnXhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwNDAyZmU2ZmI5YWQ2MTNjOTNlMTJiZGRmYzZlYzAyYTJi ZDkyZjAwMjA1MDU5NGQvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQwIXyHOf0udxxyAgAiVU12zo8X3DqWL4D1sjmnKaD EkB+IAi+ySGUog8Xc2OQ1TFQAaBAx55ghy7xLuqjEVTcu3UpEE6utKNj1lmRALXQ 9rjMrFDMau1Q9/e6w2Rhw+QQTFhdILPVHdD7tRefTH6JvnIn9L9hlx6PCE/jJuNH fxr0PH+0Y2WZquvpg88xkn97ZrmpXwUHOLgQaYjPXXQSlNUTTy+CQ5SVCFAYIHyb YdXILbREau845DDjrHvwaxS1RIQG2XcgkiEVMlAz+rNyVkTyQryECHZs7LqgcQnv 6BdcPXwsmxrzbpjacLrCLPLuxHarMk+mqeDINFRN9ESOzDrRJ+Ox3RMqXTkyvQ== =KuAX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HB4mHL4PVvkpZAgW--