Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1XLKAI-0003c3-3t for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:52:06 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of petertodd.org designates 62.13.149.115 as permitted sender) client-ip=62.13.149.115; envelope-from=pete@petertodd.org; helo=outmail149115.authsmtp.co.uk; Received: from outmail149115.authsmtp.co.uk ([62.13.149.115]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1XLKAG-0005kY-Op for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:52:06 +0000 Received: from mail-c237.authsmtp.com (mail-c237.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.237]) by punt18.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id s7NMpuwY081565; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 23:51:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from savin.petertodd.org (75-119-251-161.dsl.teksavvy.com [75.119.251.161]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id s7NMpoXD031964 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 23 Aug 2014 23:51:52 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:51:38 -0400 From: Peter Todd To: Luke Dashjr Message-ID: <20140823225138.GB18381@savin.petertodd.org> References: <201408231902.57017.luke@dashjr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mxv5cy4qt+RJ9ypb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201408231902.57017.luke@dashjr.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Server-Quench: 1325b3ea-2b18-11e4-9f74-002590a135d3 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aAdMdAEUGUATAgsB AmIbWVdeVVx7XGE7 bA9PbARUfEhLXhtr VklWR1pVCwQmQht/ e15BOm1ydARPfno+ YkFlXj5aX0Z/J0Uo E1NWR2wOeGZhPWQC WRZfcx5UcAFPdx8U a1N6AHBDAzANdhES HhM4ODE3eDlSNilR RRkIIFQOdA4zBDkk QAsLGWdnMEsOXTQr M1QsK0IXG0cXekA/ KkAoVl8DWwA8 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1024:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 75.119.251.161/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [62.13.149.115 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Headers-End: 1XLKAG-0005kY-Op Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: Encrypt bitcoin messages X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:52:06 -0000 --mxv5cy4qt+RJ9ypb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 07:02:55PM +0000, Luke Dashjr wrote: > On Saturday, August 23, 2014 6:44:15 PM Mike Hearn wrote: > > > Not to mention encrypting basically non-sensitive inter-node traffic = is > > > almost completely worthless in providing anonymity anyway... > >=20 > > Recall that P2P connections carry Bloom filters too, which are not publ= ic > > information. >=20 > As soon as you tell it to an unknown/public peer, it is public informatio= n. Mike is correct here: It *might* be public information, and probably won't be. We already can give weak assurance that it probably won't be against many weaker attackers, simply because getting lots of IP addresses is moderately expensive, and in the future additional methods will be developed and deployed. --=20 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org 0000000000000000239344fc532bbad8a679e3fc30e8900772523a10c4720a0c --mxv5cy4qt+RJ9ypb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGrBAEBCACVBQJT+Rr1XhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAxNjI2NGM5NjViZWY5NmE1ZTI1ODhjOGQ5OWQxZDA1OWMx OWY2ZWE1OWUwMjVkZGUvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQJIFAPaXwkfs7iQf/YcKwKjFrW7W3293mxbhLPuPr 1i8bmK+PVSyIQ3ufzSNsbdSyWaCnj3y1sdG3caUtbsuHiBVwoQQ/9tIvhJwL7Ztz 1/a78cg6Jq839HlRWK6RPd+jdP8cWpYK1qiOsPnq/6m6czgDlAiIhj8TCjcPgk63 5THiKB+x/SGgRjYY3xh4iNuIbQROgcEr+RmDeVDKEqow7T9Roc/Zziu8k5smNTfC /O1mIDGNjK2izyNOnfm9qt1oq0ZcfXZKGcXp+ynwWRfS6ErBSHg9OveT3024Z2IS s1IhJExHkKE5K3P/Oq6/Hxu6SbRdRxaBEIM1k8gQdGPgPrF/qXnHHjSQhUrB+A== =sk55 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mxv5cy4qt+RJ9ypb--