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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Virtual Notary.
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I cannot let http://www.deedbot.org go unmentioned on this thread.

On Friday, May 22, 2015, Jonas Schnelli <dev@jonasschnelli.ch> wrote:

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> > * proof of Bitcoin funds (without revealing public addresses or
> > fund location on the blockchain)
> >
> > * proof of Bitcoin address ownership
> >
> > * proof of Tweet
> >
> > * proof of real estate value
> >
> > * proof of DNS ownership
> >
> > * proof of existence
> >
> > * proof of web page contents
> >
> > * proof of weather conditions
> >
> > The factoids can be recorded on the blockchain (if you pay for the
> > transaction with Bitcoin or PayPal), or they can be part of a free
> > attestation chain that we maintain. The website provides a
> > permanent URL to the factoids it generates; it also provides an
> > X.509 certificate that you can download and keep safe in
> > perpetuity, independent of the website.
>
>
> Hi Emin
>
> This is going into the right direction. Well done!
> The certificates (X.509/p12) are far more enduser-friendly than just a
> normal PoE hash.
>
> Your site needs some UX love and i just tried to OR_RETURN a
> Email-Address-Verification. But after creating a 0.0001 tx and waiting
> for two confirmations it still said that the payment has not yet been
> received. There is probably something broken regarding the bitcoin
> payment verification.
>
> The weather and real estate notarization definitively needs a =E2=80=9EUS
> only=E2=80=9C badge somewhere.
>
> Two ideas:
> - - Maybe adding a way of decentralize your notary service log via a
> opensource p2p daemon (obviously sensitive data should be somehow
> encrypted)?
> - - Adding a opensource UI app to examine certs (maybe offline capable
> with p2p daemon chain as mentioned above). This could prove
> independence from your website/service.
>
> </jonas>
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I cannot let=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://www.deedbot.org">http://www.deedbot.org=
</a>=C2=A0go unmentioned on this thread.<span></span><div><div><div><div><b=
r>On Friday, May 22, 2015, Jonas Schnelli &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dev@jonassc=
hnelli.ch">dev@jonasschnelli.ch</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
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<br>
&gt; * proof of Bitcoin funds (without revealing public addresses or<br>
&gt; fund location on the blockchain)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; * proof of Bitcoin address ownership<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; * proof of Tweet<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; * proof of real estate value<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; * proof of DNS ownership<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; * proof of existence<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; * proof of web page contents<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; * proof of weather conditions<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The factoids can be recorded on the blockchain (if you pay for the<br>
&gt; transaction with Bitcoin or PayPal), or they can be part of a free<br>
&gt; attestation chain that we maintain. The website provides a<br>
&gt; permanent URL to the factoids it generates; it also provides an<br>
&gt; X.509 certificate that you can download and keep safe in<br>
&gt; perpetuity, independent of the website.<br>
<br>
<br>
Hi Emin<br>
<br>
This is going into the right direction. Well done!<br>
The certificates (X.509/p12) are far more enduser-friendly than just a<br>
normal PoE hash.<br>
<br>
Your site needs some UX love and i just tried to OR_RETURN a<br>
Email-Address-Verification. But after creating a 0.0001 tx and waiting<br>
for two confirmations it still said that the payment has not yet been<br>
received. There is probably something broken regarding the bitcoin<br>
payment verification.<br>
<br>
The weather and real estate notarization definitively needs a =E2=80=9EUS<b=
r>
only=E2=80=9C badge somewhere.<br>
<br>
Two ideas:<br>
- - Maybe adding a way of decentralize your notary service log via a<br>
opensource p2p daemon (obviously sensitive data should be somehow<br>
encrypted)?<br>
- - Adding a opensource UI app to examine certs (maybe offline capable<br>
with p2p daemon chain as mentioned above). This could prove<br>
independence from your website/service.<br>
<br>
&lt;/jonas&gt;<br>
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