Return-Path: <luke@dashjr.org> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25AE4D33 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 20:46:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from zinan.dashjr.org (zinan.dashjr.org [192.3.11.21]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99E063 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 20:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ishibashi.localnet (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:5:265:61b6:56a6:b03d:28d6]) (Authenticated sender: luke-jr) by zinan.dashjr.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 27B3738A9581; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 20:46:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Hashcash: 1:25:160206:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org::LvNoqd9GZb2ROLf2:bebR2 X-Hashcash: 1:25:160206:tomz@freedommail.ch::mwMwph263BPm6lVy:dKic From: Luke Dashjr <luke@dashjr.org> To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Tom Zander <tomz@freedommail.ch> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 20:46:39 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/4.1.13-gentoo; KDE/4.14.8; x86_64; ; ) References: <CABsx9T1Bd0-aQg-9uRa4u3dGA5fKxaj8-mEkxVzX8mhdj4Gt2g@mail.gmail.com> <CABm2gDoungCbB22_SKHcedBKegWEPpjeM2woxLGchC4=om8BrA@mail.gmail.com> <1804222.7gVHPiWqto@kiwi> In-Reply-To: <1804222.7gVHPiWqto@kiwi> X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: E463 A93F 5F31 17EE DE6C 7316 BD02 9424 21F4 889F X-PGP-Key-ID: BD02942421F4889F X-PGP-Keyserver: hkp://pgp.mit.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201602062046.40193.luke@dashjr.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_SBL, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP proposal: Increase block size limit to 2 megabytes X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 20:46:55 -0000 On Saturday, February 06, 2016 5:25:21 PM Tom Zander via bitcoin-dev wrote: > On Saturday, February 06, 2016 06:09:21 PM Jorge Tim=F3n via bitcoin-dev= =20 wrote: > > None of the reasons you list say anything about the fact that "being > > lost" (kicked out of the network) is a problem for those node's users. >=20 > That's because its not. >=20 > If you have a node that is "old" your node will stop getting new blocks. > The node will essentially just say "x-hours behind" with "x" getting larg= er > every hour. Funds don't get confirmed. etc. Until someone decides to attack you. Then you'll get 6, 10, maybe more bloc= ks=20 confirming a large 10000 BTC payment. If you're just a normal end user (or= =20 perhaps an automated system), you'll figure that payment is good and=20 irreversibly hand over the title to the house. Luke