Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1793FB6B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:56:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from c.mail.sonic.net (c.mail.sonic.net [64.142.111.80]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEA20165 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.136] (1-64-179-042.static.netvigator.com [1.64.179.42]) (authenticated bits=0) by c.mail.sonic.net (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id tB90uPtW027329 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 8 Dec 2015 16:56:28 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_47752164-B5D0-4D28-AB7A-95F91CBF7B05"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: Jonathan Toomim In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 08:56:25 +0800 Message-Id: <9FA8EA6D-91E0-4DA5-8D1F-094787B22797@toom.im> References: <20151208110752.GA31180@amethyst.visucore.com> <5666FD8D.8050201@openbitcoinprivacyproject.org> <2030FF3C-4F65-44E6-A9D5-9CD144179994@toom.im> To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Tim=F3n?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Sonic-CAuth: UmFuZG9tSVbMmhcGfsnXKCOQcnbzG/Nez/zqc6aePvG5p5ItOYTMRJqwVUA/FcdKo4kxdXOUJ1Dyc5OqSy0WHC9o1jgKgNEi X-Sonic-ID: C;qqUPrA+e5RG08f8vZz0oYQ== M;ysh6rQ+e5RG08f8vZz0oYQ== X-Sonic-Spam-Details: 0.0/5.0 by cerberusd X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Capacity increases for the Bitcoin system. X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 00:56:33 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_47752164-B5D0-4D28-AB7A-95F91CBF7B05 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A1D3BDBC-D93D-4813-8C4B-8CFD5785D618" --Apple-Mail=_A1D3BDBC-D93D-4813-8C4B-8CFD5785D618 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Dec 9, 2015, at 7:50 AM, Jorge Tim=F3n wrote: > I don't undesrtand. SPV nodes won't think they are validating = transactions with the new version unless they adapt to the new format. = They will be simply unable to receive payments using the new format if = it is a softfork (although as said I agree with making it a hardfork on = the simpler design and smaller fraud proofs grounds alone). >=20 Okay, I might just not understand how a sigwit payment would look to = current software yet. I'll add learning about that to my to-do list... --Apple-Mail=_A1D3BDBC-D93D-4813-8C4B-8CFD5785D618 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

On Dec 9, 2015, at 7:50 AM, Jorge = Tim=F3n <jtimon@jtimon.cc> = wrote:

I = don't undesrtand. SPV nodes won't think they are validating transactions = with the new version unless they adapt to the new format. They will be = simply unable to receive payments using the new format if it is a = softfork (although as said I agree with making it a hardfork on the = simpler design and smaller fraud proofs grounds = alone).

Okay, I might just not understand how a = sigwit payment would look to current software yet. I'll add learning = about that to my to-do list...= --Apple-Mail=_A1D3BDBC-D93D-4813-8C4B-8CFD5785D618-- --Apple-Mail=_47752164-B5D0-4D28-AB7A-95F91CBF7B05 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJWZ3w5AAoJEIEuMk4MG0P1MEQH/jzj2sS5w7mmkhYMNy1asAHq ub7X38XgERv4E2pEDgIRezR8fqoTd2OMEc0Qr2rcmmU8URExS+f3b+z2YBDp3pJE laAqMit8PZF51OFY8B1t/2CMUHWGZdNaV1Nbcwdkj3H/TSusG9PAE9p9yWxwtuNm mkOiut+pYdMSJ8cnUCD5VgTTPJFOq/pyiO7cr+ERFzsEjT01M0ifb1O/9qPDRxJR a1zKSdBYRjXi68cWnAHFkfDy8kdfOlBJZN7RFXOPU7Ia8dnXbpmj93RzLUgOCiKz 1H7mZoUSRUkWDPPzVB2bhul0RT9HX4uWqqFButQ5AgMtzTq1qPzb97Up83bi1xM= =addK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_47752164-B5D0-4D28-AB7A-95F91CBF7B05--