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From: Christian Decker <decker.christian@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:46:57 +0000
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To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] RE : Visualizations of Votes
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Yes, the two dimensions are orthogonal: BIP 100 support and actual size
voting. However there seem to be a few pools which simply vote to support
BIP100, without specifying a desired block size [1], hence I started
tracking both on the same chart, maybe I'll split them into different
charts to clarify.

Regards,
Chris

[1]
https://blockchain.info/tx/ba1e5d21a340772d637ee5dc0bde8072ad1a7b499ba241d5bfaae9618749531e

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 4:46 PM Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@gmail.com> wrote:

> There is a duplicated column.
>
> BIP 100 voting is /BV\d+/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Christian Decker via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> I hacked together a simple tracking page for the 'block votes', it
>> currently includes the 8MB vote and XT, as well as the /BV\d+/ vote for
>> generic size:
>> http://bitcoinstats.com/network/votes/
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 7:25 AM odinn via bitcoin-dev <
>> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>>> Hello Nicolas,
>>>
>>> On 08/20/2015 08:49 PM, Nicolas Dorier via bitcoin-dev wrote:
>>> >> A visualization I would like to see would include:
>>> >
>>> >> pie graph(s) of what % are voting for (BIP 100, BIP 101, 8MB, BIP
>>> >> sipa
>>> > etc) based on what's published in blocks.
>>> >
>>> > If such a vote existed, I would gladly show the pie on BIPxDevs.
>>> > However there is no standard way for miners to vote informally BIP
>>> > they support.
>>>
>>> What about formal votes? Is there a way to visually have them appear
>>> in a pie chart as the votes become apparent in blocks?
>>>
>>> I appreciate good visualizations and am trying to get a (visual)
>>> comparison of the votes on these competing proposals.
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> > list bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
>>> > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>>> >
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>>> and expansion of a giving economy, and a new social good"
>>> https://keybase.io/odinn
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, the two dimensions are orthogonal: BIP 100 support an=
d actual size voting. However there seem to be a few pools which simply vot=
e to support BIP100, without specifying a desired block size [1], hence I s=
tarted tracking both on the same chart, maybe I&#39;ll split them into diff=
erent charts to clarify.<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Chris</div><=
div><div><br></div><div>[1]=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://blockchain.info/tx/ba1e=
5d21a340772d637ee5dc0bde8072ad1a7b499ba241d5bfaae9618749531e">https://block=
chain.info/tx/ba1e5d21a340772d637ee5dc0bde8072ad1a7b499ba241d5bfaae96187495=
31e</a><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Aug 24, =
2015 at 4:46 PM Jeff Garzik &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jgarzik@gmail.com">jgarzi=
k@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">There is a duplicated column.<div><br></div><div>BIP 100 voting is=
 /BV\d+/</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Christian=
 Decker via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev=
@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfounda=
tion.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">I hacked together a simple tracking page for the &#39;block votes&=
#39;, it currently includes the 8MB vote and XT, as well as the /BV\d+/ vot=
e for generic size:<div><a href=3D"http://bitcoinstats.com/network/votes/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://bitcoinstats.com/network/votes/</a><br></div></div=
><div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Aug 21, =
2015 at 7:25 AM odinn via bitcoin-dev &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lis=
ts.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation=
.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">-----BEGIN PGP =
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<br>
Hello Nicolas,<br>
<br>
On 08/20/2015 08:49 PM, Nicolas Dorier via bitcoin-dev wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; A visualization I would like to see would include:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; pie graph(s) of what % are voting for (BIP 100, BIP 101, 8MB, BIP<=
br>
&gt;&gt; sipa<br>
&gt; etc) based on what&#39;s published in blocks.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If such a vote existed, I would gladly show the pie on BIPxDevs.<br>
&gt; However there is no standard way for miners to vote informally BIP<br>
&gt; they support.<br>
<br>
What about formal votes? Is there a way to visually have them appear<br>
in a pie chart as the votes become apparent in blocks?<br>
<br>
I appreciate good visualizations and am trying to get a (visual)<br>
comparison of the votes on these competing proposals.<br>
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev mailing<br=
>
&gt; list <a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=
=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-=
dev" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org=
/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
- --<br>
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.io</a> ~<br>
&quot;a protocol concept to enable decentralization<br>
and expansion of a giving economy, and a new social good&quot;<br>
<a href=3D"https://keybase.io/odinn" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttps://keybase.io/odinn</a><br>
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