Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Qd4Xr-0003Mz-HC for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 18:03:55 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.213.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.175; envelope-from=witchspace81@gmail.com; helo=mail-yx0-f175.google.com; Received: from mail-yx0-f175.google.com ([209.85.213.175]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1Qd4Xq-0003K0-OG for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 18:03:55 +0000 Received: by yxi19 with SMTP id 19so414124yxi.34 for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 11:03:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.8.21 with SMTP id l21mr441237ybi.186.1309629829297; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 11:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.150.15 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 11:03:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <65026C81-A96E-490A-90D2-794A10C2A680@jrbobdobbs.org> References: <201107021050.10563.luke@dashjr.org> <1DBB0EED-7A9C-46AC-ABE2-6214ABD3FE9A@jrbobdobbs.org> <65026C81-A96E-490A-90D2-794A10C2A680@jrbobdobbs.org> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 18:03:49 +0000 Message-ID: From: John Smith To: Douglas Huff Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd514ccc337b704a719f4eb X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (witchspace81[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (witchspace81[at]gmail.com) 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1Qd4Xq-0003K0-OG Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Reconsider build system change? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 18:03:55 -0000 --000e0cd514ccc337b704a719f4eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Douglas Huff wrote: > On Jul 2, 2011, at 12:31 PM, John Smith wrote: > > So, what about native build script generation for other platforms? > autotools can only generate makefiles (with at least two intermediate code > generation steps), which is quite limited. > > This would be true if gmake didn't build/run basically everywhere; but, it > does. > It doesn't for the native build systems on at least Windows and OSX. Yes, you can get gmake to run, but it's a hack. > I would say that's actually a mark against cmake. If you need a gui to > select build options because your cli doesn't have proper help output > something is wrong. > You don't need to use the UI. It's just a convenience. Command line can simply be used if you want. > If you're willing to setup and maintain a cmake build environment I > wouldn't say it should be rejected outright. Speculating about it without an > implementation to compare seems like a waste of time. > As I said in my opening post, there *is* a cmake build system implemented for bitcoin. JS --000e0cd514ccc337b704a719f4eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Douglas Huff= <dhuff@jrbobd= obbs.org> wrote:
On Jul 2, 2011, at 12:31 PM, John Smith wrote:
> So, what about native build script generation for other platforms? aut= otools can only generate makefiles (with at least two intermediate code gen= eration steps), which is quite limited.

This would be true if gmake didn't build/run basically everywhere= ; but, it does.

It doesn't for the native buil= d systems on at least Windows and OSX. Yes, you can get gmake to run, but i= t's a hack.
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I wo= uld say that's actually a mark against cmake. If you need a gui to sele= ct build options because your cli doesn't have proper help output somet= hing is wrong.

You don't need to use the UI. It's just a con= venience. Command line can simply be used if you want.
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If you're willing to setup and maintain a cmake build environment I wou= ldn't say it should be rejected outright. Speculating about it without = an implementation to compare seems like a waste of time.

As I said in my opening post, there *is* a cmake build system impl= emented for bitcoin.=A0

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