Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YqNYI-0002HZ-Fk for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 07 May 2015 15:17:30 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of bitpay.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.181; envelope-from=jgarzik@bitpay.com; helo=mail-ob0-f181.google.com; Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com ([209.85.214.181]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1YqNYH-0000u3-GP for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 07 May 2015 15:17:30 +0000 Received: by obblk2 with SMTP id lk2so33946771obb.0 for ; Thu, 07 May 2015 08:17:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=8wmaRkUhwHH4THURybnPk+z5Eq2mm9TJ2rEpJpb2QxU=; b=RBO0IyUU2cPFhxogfGf9Mff/bVlZjprI8pMeyJPon2We9+wkAJ6rU5/6Iwu8F/Yc67 XtZQmf2I/erArLduilzt6xQNGo+l3S8is/W934pdCNxxo5YStIFyRkH21KmzWb2TGRKs xoAbQjSFUiW+5rTRsfv9gC0SWY/I3cu+5yUn8rfdLPMG/nTUPcYdyfMX4fB2IRafxYCa wEvEGd6+0JN+iyEJVXPPvzCUkJj9MkAvE4sFq7YxGi90CitQhvASLUQvgXabFy0WhNhI bR4uGr7PWqYSz9eUF9bGFHynY1rkiZ0VAS089kIPesY4v7shfpOTLA7mRqqPyKCph5cl ZTrA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkeMbWyrUrknaMN65EA6diC85RiM0KqwU9gmDSKKsvWFann1K3sduge/f3XUV2R060Ik+Lb X-Received: by 10.182.230.104 with SMTP id sx8mr3652010obc.61.1431011843682; Thu, 07 May 2015 08:17:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.108.149 with HTTP; Thu, 7 May 2015 08:17:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <554A91BE.6060105@bluematt.me> From: Jeff Garzik Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 11:17:03 -0400 Message-ID: To: Mike Hearn Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134be5e9cc58605157f6863 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1YqNYH-0000u3-GP Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Block Size Increase X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 15:17:30 -0000 --001a1134be5e9cc58605157f6863 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Mike Hearn wrote: > > That's why I conclude the opposite - if there is no fork, then people's > confidence in Bitcoin will be seriously damaged. > Yes, that is a possibility. > If it's impossible to do something as trivial as removing a temporary hack > Satoshi put in place, then what about bigger challenges? > This is absolutely not a trivial change. It is a trivial *code* change. It is not a trivial change to the economics of a $3.2B system. -- Jeff Garzik Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/ --001a1134be5e9cc58605157f6863 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On T= hu, May 7, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> wrot= e:

That's why= I conclude the opposite - if there is no fork, then people's confidenc= e in Bitcoin will be seriously damaged.
=
Yes, that is a possibility.

=C2=A0
If it's impossible to do something as trivial = as removing a temporary hack Satoshi put in place, then what about bigger c= hallenges?

This is absolu= tely not a trivial change.

It is a trivial code ch= ange.=C2=A0 It is not a trivial change to the economics of a $3.2B system.<= br clear=3D"all">

--
Jeff= Garzik
Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist
BitPay, Inc= . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0htt= ps://bitpay.com/
--001a1134be5e9cc58605157f6863--