Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from <alex.mizrahi@gmail.com>) id 1WXFgo-0004oQ-A8 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 19:58:42 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.216.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.54; envelope-from=alex.mizrahi@gmail.com; helo=mail-qa0-f54.google.com; Received: from mail-qa0-f54.google.com ([209.85.216.54]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WXFgn-0001nd-JP for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 19:58:42 +0000 Received: by mail-qa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id w8so6502679qac.13 for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 12:58:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.172.131 with SMTP id l3mr18159536qaz.57.1396900716049; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 12:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.77.38 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Apr 2014 12:58:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <CABbpET8DaEKbafX6Cju_e+ygeV1WDf_LXQKU6tTofh32R9XM=Q@mail.gmail.com> References: <CABbpET96CboPcQeV-nKXv-CeaPiwpTKVUB_ioGPB2s3_5Y7bnQ@mail.gmail.com> <5341E1FF.7080204@monetize.io> <CABbpET_JFceNhRkxSZMyiTxkkYr2MvQVob7o4juEsPj4wo8e8g@mail.gmail.com> <CAC1+kJMpEetKdpKs-OaFGvnBwi6-Pj8ycJ77cJzHOTk_jUPw=g@mail.gmail.com> <CABbpET-S5ahuQVcBaJZGyvFMS1=RU2mJZUAmECBKhFOFu6B6EA@mail.gmail.com> <5342BEE0.3050204@monetize.io> <CABbpET8Qbvhb47ZJX4EVh4673_ic9UwpMdMyZbsHay9F2zTj9Q@mail.gmail.com> <CAC1+kJPBH85p8Mgu0_7+1JxizgX19a-HWWF+38BLA7DZ4Ldd6g@mail.gmail.com> <CABbpET8DaEKbafX6Cju_e+ygeV1WDf_LXQKU6tTofh32R9XM=Q@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 22:58:35 +0300 Message-ID: <CAE28kURu7-OgY6vN0az6rQUGpChK76ZQL9_eL1J4j-HZOqhRYA@mail.gmail.com> From: Alex Mizrahi <alex.mizrahi@gmail.com> To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b673fb6f7796104f6794a2d X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (alex.mizrahi[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WXFgn-0001nd-JP Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Feedback request: colored coins protocol X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 19:58:42 -0000 --047d7b673fb6f7796104f6794a2d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is beyond ridiculous... Color kernel which works with padding is still quite simple. I think we have extra 10-50 lines of code to handle padding in coloredcoinlib. Essentially we have a couple of lines like this : value_wop = tx.outputs[oi].value - padding (value_wop means "value without padding"). And then we have like 10 lines of code which selects padding for a transaction. That's not a lot of extra complexity. And it solves the problem once and for all. What you propose instead: "a different colored coin representing 10 shares, and another one representing 100 shares (like the different denominations of dollar bills)" is much more complex, and it won't work: Suppose you have $100 coin, as a single coin. How do you send $54.23? That's simply impossible. So you'd rather push complexity to higher levels (and create inconvenience for end users, as you admitted yourself) than add 10-50 lines of code to color kernel? I just do not understand this. But I'm not going to argue. I already wrote everything which I could write on this topic. --047d7b673fb6f7796104f6794a2d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">This is beyond ridiculous...</d= iv><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Color ke= rnel which works with padding is still quite simple. I think we have extra = 10-50 lines of code to handle padding in coloredcoinlib. Essentially we hav= e a couple of lines like this :<br> <br>=A0 =A0 value_wop =3D tx.outputs[oi].value - padding</div><div class=3D= "gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">(value_wop means "v= alue without padding").</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">And then we ha= ve like 10 lines of code which selects padding for a transaction.=A0</div> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">That's = not a lot of extra complexity. And it solves the problem once and for all.<= /div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div>What you propose instead: &q= uot;<span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.80000019073486= 3px">a different colored coin representing 10 shares, and another one repre= senting 100 shares (like the different denominations of dollar bills)"= =A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001= 90734863px">is much more complex, and it won't work:</span></div> <div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907348= 63px"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;fon= t-size:12.800000190734863px">Suppose you have $100 coin, as a single coin.= =A0</span></div> <div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907348= 63px">How do you send $54.23?</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-family:a= rial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px">That's simply impossibl= e.</span></div> <div><br></div><div>So you'd rather push complexity to higher levels (a= nd create inconvenience for end users, as you admitted yourself) than add 1= 0-50 lines of code to color kernel?</div><div>I just do not understand this= .</div> <div><br></div><div>But I'm not going to argue. I already wrote everyth= ing which I could write on this topic.=A0</div><div><br></div></div> --047d7b673fb6f7796104f6794a2d--