Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>) id 1WaLTf-0007wY-Sh for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 08:45:55 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.42; envelope-from=melvincarvalho@gmail.com; helo=mail-la0-f42.google.com; Received: from mail-la0-f42.google.com ([209.85.215.42]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WaLTe-0001MA-Sb for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 08:45:55 +0000 Received: by mail-la0-f42.google.com with SMTP id ec20so7991777lab.1 for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 01:45:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.199.99 with SMTP id jj3mr2076471lbc.22.1397637948062; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 01:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.147.101 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 01:45:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <CA+s+GJDdENtqQt1f+L5htuuyPxUxsq0prLQFBLirTjJz0nG1gw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CA+s+GJDdENtqQt1f+L5htuuyPxUxsq0prLQFBLirTjJz0nG1gw@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:45:48 +0200 Message-ID: <CAKaEYhKDDCSOiygnfsMpO-dQKjwHnm0icoH9+oGqo+114_9sAQ@mail.gmail.com> From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> To: Wladimir <laanwj@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c33fe26b418604f724f1c7 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. 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X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 08:45:56 -0000 --001a11c33fe26b418604f724f1c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 16 April 2014 10:14, Wladimir <laanwj@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to not do internet > banking with Windows XP. > > If it is no longer secure enough for online banking it's CERTAINLY not > secure enough to run a wallet (for a node only it would be ok-ish as they > have no keys to protect). > Any opinions on what to do here? Just warn and allow the user to continue? > Redirect them to a 'Windows XP is dangerous' message on bitcoin.org? > (Microsoft uses > http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help) > > The drawback of dropping XP support completely would be that a lot of > computers (especially in China and Russia etc) are still running XP, so > this could cause the network to lose nodes. > XP with a trezor would work fine tho? My personal preference would be a warning, and to direct them to a free software operating system that they could upgrade to. > > If you're maintainer of other wallet software: how are you handling this? > Are you going to drop XP support completely? If so, starting from when? > > Regards, > Wladimir > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book > "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their > applications. 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Download your free book today! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > --001a11c33fe26b418604f724f1c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail= _quote">On 16 April 2014 10:14, Wladimir <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"m= ailto:laanwj@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">laanwj@gmail.com</a>></span> w= rote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello,<br><div> <div> <p>Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to not d= o internet banking with Windows XP.</p> <p>If it is no longer secure enough for online banking it's CERTAINLY n= ot secure enough to run a wallet (for a node only it would be ok-ish as the= y have no keys to protect).</p></div> </div>Any opinions on what to do here? Just warn and allow the user t= o continue? Redirect them to a 'Windows XP is dangerous' message on= <a href=3D"http://bitcoin.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin.org</a>? (Microso= ft uses <a href=3D"http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-h= elp" target=3D"_blank">http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-suppo= rt-help</a>)<br> <br></div><div>The drawback of dropping XP support completely would be that= a lot of computers (especially in China and Russia etc) are still running = XP, so this could cause the network to lose nodes.<br></div></div></blockqu= ote> <div><br></div><div>XP with a trezor would work fine tho?<br><br></div><div= >My personal preference would be a warning, and to direct them to a free so= ftware operating system that they could upgrade to.<br></div><div>=C2=A0</d= iv> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div></div><div><br>If you&= #39;re maintainer of other wallet software: how are you handling this?<br> </div><div>Are you going to drop XP support completely? If so, starting fro= m when?<br></div><div><br>Regards,<br></div>Wladimir<br><br></div> <br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------<br> Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book<br> "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases = and their<br> applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,<br> this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!<br> <a href=3D"http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech" target=3D"_blank">http://p.sf.net/s= fu/NeoTech</a><br>_______________________________________________<br> Bitcoin-development mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net">Bitcoin-develo= pment@lists.sourceforge.net</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development= " target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-de= velopment</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br></div></div> --001a11c33fe26b418604f724f1c7--