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See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (mh.in.england[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1UZGe4-0004wu-Ji Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Service bits for pruned nodes X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 08:19:41 -0000 --047d7b4140506a355604dc085c66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You are welcome to optimise P2P addr broadcasts or develop better bootstrap mechanisms. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM, John Dillon <john.dillon892@googlemail.com>wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > Sorry I should have used the word bootstrapping there rather than > discovery. > But again I think that shows my point clearly. Centralized methods like DNS > should be used for as little as possible, just simple initial > bootstrapping, > and focus the development efforts towards the non-centralized peer > discovery > mechanisms. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > > iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJRhlpyAAoJEEWCsU4mNhiP+NwH/3RY5vBpSYkwKgTmdKHRc/gw > BJCSV/1MEDECgBTxaRYSzYZyargjsdG50KaIaCq8M1+8DWkBEkH8JFif7UYMlZGM > WROMP6UjAnP1fJ3B2JChdMgRv1HdXJQDQVcO8UnSJschhX8lZZiUySbaqIPuRuV/ > lI7/JkUZvmnms4+HGiaqwfbPO0k6ytJNKxORrk4TzFnThh4dy9WytElc8JHZOFaQ > ly159X5JuEwh8DLOoUtPhaR6tJaJbJLBEt+QJiGnSktPsJCE8p9+4HQ0kMCQr3Ha > 05EHTZEw+TqEPaA7vFLgA/9tWjK9s1Y6sqLOAYiLp/0wSKzCkBO0C5LWFHsJ/XQ= > =aCgi > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > --047d7b4140506a355604dc085c66 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">You are welcome to optimise P2P addr broadcasts or develop= better bootstrap mechanisms.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div = class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM, John Dillon <span dir= =3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:john.dillon892@googlemail.com" target=3D"_bl= ank">john.dillon892@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESS= AGE-----<br> Hash: SHA256<br> <br> </div>Sorry I should have used the word bootstrapping there rather than dis= covery.<br> But again I think that shows my point clearly. 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