Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1VhUqh-0005IO-KB for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 01:38:59 +0000 Received: from mail-pb0-f46.google.com ([209.85.160.46]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1VhUqb-00076H-Ko for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 01:38:59 +0000 Received: by mail-pb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id un15so4303060pbc.5 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 17:38:47 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8Jjl87MqH5FrfE+rAomHjK3QAZcR/69zItIUDARWZjs=; b=Wese1u20zxfDlWfrOyx9iXYbB/zBWC6XCgokpFhnE8PjmjasrmbtnYykl81nR+5I6g Cwr2jSZpuevFe045df23fdALtowLRBiejyMqcPE8FdJ5jBsg54ckhvivEbzP2gGq+0WP aA6b6tCnkqCd7S4v1gxCLmNEP0QFKD58dzokvd+W519dsMuDi97sK3OENk+4Ufjsy8il R9QnDycIo+Q9m2+YfVs7wncetn9MpKhkbQEjGkbwAvSFgKBJ6e06yg4FxX6wQNFVK4MG p3Bz7YUJ7Zgf6vzWX6BabdCNHjNUmqcUFiYtDOsPz4d+lHyWdQLWY0DL8eNtC+fvdJ7w BwgQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmSMDPEiEJLxIeuoms5sq2QhoJisFtdIWMwor8pnVY2XUdQiXQ1sbVgHIPtRz/jFEcdd3Tm X-Received: by 10.66.122.100 with SMTP id lr4mr9746057pab.164.1384565500026; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 17:31:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from phobos.local (50-0-36-80.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net. [50.0.36.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id yh1sm7353351pbc.21.2013.11.15.17.31.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Nov 2013 17:31:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5286CAF8.9010005@monetize.io> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 17:31:36 -0800 From: Mark Friedenbach Organization: Monetize.io Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net References: <201311142301.39550.luke@dashjr.org> <201311160110.42132.luke@dashjr.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: gpgtools.org] 0.0 T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT Fill in a short form with personal information X-Headers-End: 1VhUqb-00076H-Ko Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] moving the default display to mbtc X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 01:38:59 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/15/13 5:19 PM, Drak wrote: > Maybe, but again from the user's perspective they pay someone, and > they receive money - just like you do with paypal using an email > address. The technical bits in the middle dont matter to the user > and trying to crap stuff in to be technically correct is just > confusing to them. > > The UI needs to be about the user and fit with his experience of > the world. It's not about being technically correct. It is about protecting the user from grave breaches of privacy. It is for their own benefit that they should not be reusing addresses, and if they understood why they wouldn't. Unfortunately calling it a "bitcoin address" and including an "address book" in the reference client has had the effect of making people think that these objects are like paypal address, or email addresses, but they are not and they should not be treated the same. Mark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJShsr4AAoJEAdzVfsmodw46nIP/AlDcJh2ET9qYT2ZvddciTk3 dtQDArCkwCW3kYbVjIFT8YtNFftEfkq/qBNnILipLJNN49QduAIlt3aetEE6eJBZ oqYOV2R7GW2yhLDv/GrT6GnB1C9nQ4OuKC6RNpXX4bMpZSrbP9yfyyLqecF1tMBV i8De4XLz1uUvZOo/jwHNeYy/BAZktwdk5hWlgG2yKebRbqVX1Xv70Qb1cPpBgCWm uRDL3bqdZuh6i8NNDQpBqMJ/MP4ZWpIgdHkfO6a3QCq3H0JXyug4t5lkNngCrAI3 KGlSOuYK4Fsfw97xQUBFIaSYFOU+yPDRQK4UGcTqWPLt5YHzUxBFNkOXSnVReudq Em/wlbDkPqm7R6by54fVkG85snJrwmTbD7uxGz2fe1LyzB3HhdOTZyZ1KiyDHqGA zDUFxmH0XNhvVcJvcSFlc38A54oOHTJmfJ3rxJU/q0/5N3ZIBdF8fQ4xIvXXDeeA dO+tul5q78tbO6xyTrbsHO8JRYt4Un8Hjc5mkdqp9gzA8beJFm5+jMZlGBfdl5jR lS9sW7QBxr6m+n2PJ97i+1CgoxTfzOh3jyj93G6Hqx3reTfCu5fSWUhwRnFzJXav qqPBP4Cl+6ocK7+4V1lyfAzMqpYx+GCJ1JZhD0hhwrGglgVPfE0bz7BUGea8U3+T 0pCTlkhWzEbzDp7NtFdY =ShxL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----