Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94B03898 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:13:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-io0-f180.google.com (mail-io0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30F1A89 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iods203 with SMTP id s203so15659525iod.0 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:13:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Hnci6NP8cr2r69IEDGc0pcht+GNbgJLp3bMINVz8tlU=; b=fnYDMjj/bCWTe61hsFevnF5nvdt3BrcgPCzEBjc9aIIHhsYILBD7tGQfATunYrnAqx 40yq0T9uk4gBq4xGznlOvzCb1JbjVj420I34n5R4JHvrI/qFjdUOqN5PAp2ofWPxWafp U5Yi3J408hFuZouxwPmseCzBfUJ1McwdyUY9dFCq5gfIo6q2q+YtliDnKq+KZUOJnn7S ueqYgWvKjLRk6ey39T2wR+ldczYPDDBBkV3HzOopSfPzkWqwAArMv2KNrt4Xn4+CJlXS ru2mZroh+jEyBjuCJ1ibWegXIbiYtpi5zOqp+Gbabw8LR4YDxE+pVpxdB6eRVBtEHzkT zPYA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmo1/CQH5O19qYziId+45Ugi/YjV3Xp3xftlJUvBGH6N/KPtRA1TetezqfAf5Nf/9Lx5622 X-Received: by 10.107.11.67 with SMTP id v64mr32319313ioi.105.1439320413376; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:13:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.158.140 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:13:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [24.4.96.213] In-Reply-To: References: From: Mark Friedenbach Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:13:14 -0700 Message-ID: To: Pindar Wong Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113f9694f5256d051d0de5cf X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] CFP Bitcoin Scalability Workshop (Sept 12-13), Montreal Canada X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:13:35 -0000 --001a113f9694f5256d051d0de5cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I want to put a big thank-you out to Pindar, Warren, and others in the organizing committee who I know must have put in a lot of hours to make this happen. I will be attending, and I hope to see many of you there too. It is my sincere hope that the academic structure of a workshop will help break down some of the communication walls that have arisen in this debate, and help us all work towards finding a compromise towards scaling bitcoin, something we all want to see happen. On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:45 AM, Pindar Wong via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > Bitcoin Scalability Workshops > > In recent months the Bitcoin development community has faced difficult > discussions of how to safely improve the scalability and decentralized > nature of the Bitcoin network. To aid the technical consensus building > process we are organizing a pair of workshops to collect technical > criteria, present proposals and evaluate technical materials and data wit= h > academic discipline and analysis that fully considers the complex tradeof= fs > between decentralization, utility, security and operational realities. Th= is > may be considered as similar in intent and process to the NIST-SHA3 desig= n > process where performance and security were in a tradeoff for a security > critical application. > > Since Bitcoin is a P2P currency with many stakeholders, it is important t= o > collect requirements as broadly as possible, and through the process > enhance everyone=E2=80=99s understanding of the technical properties of B= itcoin to > help foster an inclusive, transparent, and informed process. > > Those with technical interest are invited to participate in this pair of > workshops with the following intent: > > Phase 1: Scene setting, evaluation criteria, and tradeoff analysis. > > Montreal, Canada: September 12th-13th, 2015 > > Scalability is not a single parameter; there are many opportunities to > make the Bitcoin protocol more efficient and better able to service the > needs of its growing userbase. Each approach to further scaling the Bitco= in > blockchain involves implicit trade offs of desired properties of the whol= e > system. As a community we need to raise awareness of the complex and subt= le > issues involved, facilitate deeper research and testing of existing > proposals, and motivate future work in this area. > > The purpose of this workshop is to discuss the general tradeoffs and > requirements of any proposal to scale Bitcoin beyond its present limits. > Session topics are to include the presentation of experimental data > relating to known bottlenecks of Bitcoin=E2=80=99s continued growth and a= nalysis of > implicit tradeoffs involved in general strategies for enabling future > growth. > > This event will not host sessions on the topic of any specific proposals > involving changes to the Bitcoin protocol. Such proposals would be the > topic of a 2nd, follow-on Phase 2 workshop described below; this event is > intended to =E2=80=9Cset the stage=E2=80=9D for work on and evaluation of= specific > proposals in the time between the workshops. > > Phase 2 will be planned out further as part of Phase 1 with input from th= e > participants. > > Phase 2: Presentation and review of technical proposals, with simulation, > benchmark results. > > Hong Kong, SAR, China: TBD Nov/Dec 2015 > > Hopefully to be easier for the Chinese miners to attend, the second > workshop pertaining to actual block size proposals is to be planned for > Hong Kong roughly in the late November to December timeframe. > > The purpose of this workshop is to present and review actual proposals fo= r > scaling Bitcoin against the requirements gathered in Phase 1. Multiple > competing proposals will be presented, with experimental data, and compar= ed > against each other. The goal is to raise awareness of scalability issues > and build a pathway toward consensus for increasing Bitcoin=E2=80=99s tra= nsaction > processing capacity or, barring that, identify key areas of further > required research and next steps for moving forward. > > Preliminarily, Phase 2 will be a time to share results from experiments > performed as a result of Phase 1 and an opportunity to discuss new > developments. > > How do the Workshops work? > > - > > Both events will be live-streamed with remote participation > facilitated via IRC for parallel online discussion and passing questio= ns to > the event. > - > > These workshops aim to facilitate the existing Bitcoin Improvement > Proposals (BIP)[1] process. Most work will be done outside of the work= shops > in the intervening months. The workshops serve to be additive to the d= esign > and review process by raising awareness of diverse points of view, stu= dies, > simulations, and proposals. > - > > Travel, venue details, and accommodation recommendation are available > at scalingbitcoin.org. Registration begins August 12th at an > early-bird ticket price of $150 USD until September 3rd. The ticket pr= ices > do not come close to covering the venue expense and travel subsidies, = hence > the need for corporate sponsors. > - > > Please see the FAQ at scalingbitcoin.org which should answer most > other questions. > > > Travel Subsidies for Independent/Academic Researchers > > There will be an application process for independent or academic > researchers to apply for travel assistance to help cover the expense of > airfare and hotel fees up to $1,000 per qualified presenter who intends t= o > give a presentation. The four underwriters of this event have agreed to > jointly review applications and cover the travel subsidies for qualified > presenters. See scalingbitcoin.org for details. > > Sponsors of the Montreal Workshop > > The first workshop is hosted and with logistics handled by the Montreal > consultancy CryptoMechanics . > > The Underwriters jointly responsible for venue expenses and researcher > travel subsidies are currently the MIT Digital Currency Initiative, > Chaincode Labs, Blockstream, and Chain.com. > > Current sponsors include: Cryptsy, BitcoinTalk, Final Hash, Blockstream, > MIT DCI, Chaincode Labs, IDEO Futures, Kraken, and Chain.com. > > Additional sponsors are needed. Please see scalingbitcoin.org for > sponsorship details or contact me directly via < pindar dot wong at > gmail.com > > > Online Workshop Resources > > - > > Bitcoin-Workshops-Announce list > > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-workshops-a= nnounce > - > > Bitcoin-Workshops discussion list > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-workshops > - > > #bitcoin-workshops chat on the Freenode IRC network > http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=3Dbitcoin-workshops > > > Call for Proposals/Papers/Presentations > > If you have any research relevant to issues surrounding Bitcoin > scalability, your proposal for a presentation at the Montreal workshop > would be most welcome. Please see scalingbitcoin.org for submission > details. > > Pindar Wong > > Chair, Montreal Workshop Planning Committee > > Chairman, VeriFi (Hong Kong) Ltd. > > [1] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_Improvement_Proposals > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > > --001a113f9694f5256d051d0de5cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I want to put a big thank-you out to Pindar, Warren, = and others in the organizing committee who I know must have put in a lot of= hours to make this happen. I will be attending, and I hope to see many of = you there too. It is my sincere hope that the academic structure of a works= hop will help break down some of the communication walls that have arisen i= n this debate, and help us all work towards finding a compromise towards sc= aling bitcoin, something we all want to see happen.

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:4= 5 AM, Pindar Wong via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.l= inuxfoundation.org> wrote:
=

Bitc= oin Scalability Workshops

In recent months the Bitcoin development community has f= aced difficult discussions of how to safely improve the scalability and dec= entralized nature of the Bitcoin network. To aid the technical consensus bu= ilding process we are organizing a pair of workshops to collect technical c= riteria, present proposals and evaluate technical materials and data with a= cademic discipline and analysis that fully considers the complex tradeoffs = between decentralization, utility, security and operational realities. This= may be considered as similar in intent and process to the NIST-SHA3 design= process where performance and security were in a tradeoff for a security c= ritical application.


Since Bitcoin is a P2P currency w= ith many stakeholders, it is important to collect requirements as broadly a= s possible, and through the process enhance everyone=E2=80=99s understandin= g of the technical properties of Bitcoin to help foster an inclusive, trans= parent, and informed process.


=

= Those with technical = interest are invited to participate in this pair of workshops with the foll= owing intent:


Phase 1: Scene setting, evaluati= on criteria, and tradeoff analysis. =C2=A0

Montreal, Canada: September 12th-13th, 2015

Scalability is not a single parameter; there are = many opportunities to make the Bitcoin protocol more efficient and better a= ble to service the needs of its growing userbase. Each approach to further = scaling the Bitcoin blockchain involves implicit trade offs of desired prop= erties of the whole system. As a community we need to raise awareness of th= e complex and subtle issues involved, facilitate deeper research and testin= g of existing proposals, and motivate future work in this area.


The purpose of this workshop is to discuss the general tradeof= fs and requirements of any proposal to scale Bitcoin beyond it= s present limits. Session topics are to include the presentation of experim= ental data relating to known bottlenecks of Bitcoin=E2=80=99s continued gro= wth and analysis of implicit tradeoffs involved in general strategies for e= nabling future growth.


This event will not host se= ssions on the topic of any specific proposals involving changes to the Bitc= oin protocol. Such proposals would be the topic of a 2nd, follow-on Phase 2= workshop described below; this event is intended to =E2=80=9Cset the stage= =E2=80=9D for work on and evaluation of specific proposals in the time betw= een the workshops.


Phase 2 will be planned out fur= ther as part of Phase 1 with input from the participants.

=

Phase 2: Presentation and review of technical proposals, with s= imulation, benchmark results. = =C2=A0

Hong Kong, SAR, China: TBD Nov/Dec 2015

Hopefully to be easier for the Chine= se miners to attend, the second workshop pertaining to actual block size pr= oposals is to be planned for Hong Kong roughly in the late November to Dece= mber timeframe.


The purpose of this workshop is to = present and review actual proposals for scaling Bitcoin against the require= ments gathered in Phase 1. Multiple competing proposals will be presented, = with experimental data, and compared against each other. The goal is to rai= se awareness of scalability issues and build a pathway toward consensus for= increasing Bitcoin=E2=80=99s transaction processing capacity or, barring t= hat, identify key areas of further required research and next steps for mov= ing forward.


= Preliminarily, Phase 2 will be a time = to share results from experiments performed as a result of Phase 1 and an o= pportunity to discuss new developments.

<= br>

How do= the Workshops work?

  • Both events will b= e live-streamed with remote participation facilitated via IRC for parallel = online discussion and passing questions to the event.

  • These workshops aim to faci= litate the existing Bitcoin Improvement Proposals (BIP)[1] process. Most wo= rk will be done outside of the workshops in the intervening months. The wor= kshops serve to be additive to the design and review process by raising awa= reness of diverse points of view, studies, simulations, and proposals.

  • Travel, ve= nue details, and accommodation recommendation are available at scalingbitcoin.org= . Registration begins August 12th at a= n early-bird ticket price of $150 USD until September 3rd. The ticket price= s do not come close to covering the venue expense and travel subsidies, hen= ce the need for corporate sponsors.

  • Please see the FAQ at scalingbitcoin.org which should answer most other questions.=


Travel Subsidies for Independent/Academic = Researchers

There will be an application process for independent or academic re= searchers to apply for travel assistance to help cover the expense of airfa= re and hotel fees up to $1,000 per qualified presenter who intends to give = a presentation.=C2=A0 The four underwriters of this event have agreed to jo= intly review applications and cover the travel subsidies for qualified pres= enters. See = scalingbitcoin.org for deta= ils.


Sponsors of the Montreal Workshop =

The first workshop= is hosted and with logistics handled by the Montreal consultancy CryptoMechanics.

<= br>

The Underwriters jo= intly responsible for venue expenses and researcher travel subsidies are cu= rrently the MIT Digital Currency Initiative, Chaincode Labs, Blockstream, a= nd Chain.com.


Current sponsors include: Cryptsy, BitcoinTal= k, Final Hash, Blockstream, MIT DCI, Chaincode Labs, IDEO Futures, Kraken, = and Chain.com.


Additional sponsors are needed. Please see <= /span>scalingbitcoin.org= for sponsorship details or contact= me directly via < pindar dot wong at gmail.com >


Online Workshop Resour= ces


Call for Proposals/Papers/Presentations

If you have any research relevant = to issues surrounding Bitcoin scalability, your proposal for a presentation= at the Montreal workshop would be most welcome.=C2=A0 Please see scalingbitcoin.org= for submission details.

=

Pindar Wong

Chair, Montreal Workshop Planning Committee

Chairman, VeriFi (Ho= ng Kong) Ltd.


[1] = https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_Improvement_Proposals
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