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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 10:15:30PM +0200, Daniel Lipshitz wrote: > We have standard commercial information about the payment processors, non > custodial liquidity providers and merchants which become our clients - we > do not have any kyc/aml information or telephone number on who is sending > our clients the bitcoin for deposit. For us these are just bitcoin Trx > which our clients choose to benefit from 0-conf deposit recognition. Our > service is provided via API with the only information our clients share > with us, regarding a specific bitcoin transaction, being public bitcoin > information like trx hash and output address. You know who your clients are, and thus every request for information on a transaction is reasonably likely to be a deposit associated with the client= who requested it. Learning what addresses are associated with what entity is a significant benefit to Chainalysis operations, and there's every reason to expect that the data you learn will either be sold or leaked to Chainalysis companies. --=20 https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org --XBrXsSEEO5hxpEuH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE0RcYcKRzsEwFZ3N5Lly11TVRLzcFAmPeh4AACgkQLly11TVR LzeDTxAAuATzimWJq8Fmqc+VAVN2KeKSr9Nvc+uASlQD1X581e7FrzCp/rv17XUW 4CrnKT0JGARA2SQkc9+QL983Opk8cpeTQQdF23p/aUTLfMHz1lagosVKLoL362yJ IpCfms7XiJYemSLVpovZDKEyj3CP8SRBdIrh5g2eD6qjhNbYujvrOGajvA4JsKdC DPU82OENxVuzGhQCYyB19bRVp6xcnD3J9MkXt+KHEPGhZgspgGFfNUiA3zEI0YjA MSUJPNzd2L4lr3cv6O+V17hgHLd7eOJKE7IfnzGFSkxPL00elEJLgrNE/YJgLHbi c3UZt6nA6ssWRKcEHm2wS9s7/c2B7hl1diilhXJRDfqqK0LGI47iU3/JhxHpy5Gc PaFA8r1iKIvD5UX5gXhRyy9aQjX7kZMXR4EJUvz8Q+PO4GLBtxhXFcWtmEhE0w8I CoqiEhzeUFaw3DjpXklnM7G8OTlY4A+yR/VqKfEPwp3hkDtI1oZ6WstxcbC33BEv jp/pq/o/oBcpkhoMnJvhroOXXEw90Wu3JEt1zOg8GJe89wgKw7OMBX6vpkUiq1UT yuow3xPmmytY3thGV1p2CEyHGZmshhg2cWCUR467OEUT9ts+5SPe70yWWokwSfI9 ncHZMWLRsWYtxGYsUVmf+mpCUpq+vxQQowaSRogrlvkWudzoQ+I= =sWKK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XBrXsSEEO5hxpEuH--