Return-Path: Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org (smtp3.osuosl.org [140.211.166.136]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23187C0012; Sat, 4 Dec 2021 15:28:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012A960796; Sat, 4 Dec 2021 15:28:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: smtp3.osuosl.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=tutanota.de Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp3.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KHB1OeAR7xtf; Sat, 4 Dec 2021 15:28:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 Received: from w1.tutanota.de (w1.tutanota.de [81.3.6.162]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E774605C1; Sat, 4 Dec 2021 15:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40B5FBF54B; Sat, 4 Dec 2021 15:28:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1638631712; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=nWursWQaykvKh4DTYkBMUR/qs3qm4hET55Eqxpfi2oU=; b=PhudzHZXLlA77O0ZTX4mTesoExzNMSx4/G0YCudH9a109PN4cAS1TCOT9xXvgUTu Q3ZnjMXKhI9l/dnVQ0QSbiXTS4LEqnM94Oonb/EU6fK9FgIwzGXMrZw3DBSY2gBNHue UMqYd8WYX+9wi0Z8MN28RQWjwWyDOLzVSLc9lS6WuugmXrVxOfVOkXrwPYZ2l0Goc18 BTp7IbDYy/x7upFJuOHHPftQDH/QKAprGwf9yhQ37ZnzN15CaTT05gzSrk1s94yvhya FNX26+J9Lomkdn2bkjgNM21Kjd99Du1T/KJAmOZ9Y6PkAPbpQVX++3hLYPwwINKCBBm ujTTqzE2lQ== Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 16:28:32 +0100 (CET) From: Prayank To: LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_38025_972265104.1638631712655" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 04 Dec 2021 16:37:30 +0000 Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion , Lightning Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Pawn (chess piece) | Breaking bitcoin by playing chess X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2021 15:28:37 -0000 ------=_Part_38025_972265104.1638631712655 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can you share the email address to get approval or permission for this type= of bitcoin transactions? i.e. opening and closing of LN channels or OP_RET= URN. I will keep that in Cc next time. I can write chess moves on a dollar bill and send to my friends but it does= not solve any of the problems. Bitcoin's blockchain or ledger is for trans= actions. As long as a transaction is valid, standard and paying fees nobody= should have issues with what is being achieved with the transaction. Thanks --=20 Prayank A3B1 E430 2298 178F Dec 4, 2021, 15:30 by willtech@live.com.au: > The frivolous use of block space - ie. to increase the demand for block s= pace -=C2=A0 is not encouraged. Although it is possible you may write chess= moves on a wrap of dollar bills and send them to your friends, nowhere tha= t I know of has this been recorded in a ledger as a valid past time. > > KING JAMES HRMH=20 > Great British Empire > > Regards, > The Australian > LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH (& HMRH) > of Hougun Manor & Glencoe & British Empire > MR. Damian A. James Williamson > Wills > > et al. > > =C2=A0 > Willtech > www.willtech.com.au > www.go-overt.com > duigco.org DUIGCO API > and other projects > =C2=A0 > > m. 0487135719 > f. +61261470192 > > > This email does not constitute a general advice. Please disregard this em= ail if misdelivered. > =20 > > > From:> bitcoin-dev on be= half of Prayank via bitcoin-dev > =20 > Sent:> Saturday, 4 December 2021 3:36 PM > > To:> Lightning Dev > > Cc:> Bitcoin Dev > > Subject:> [bitcoin-dev] Pawn (chess piece) | Breaking bitcoin by play= ing chess> > =C2=A0 > Hello World, > > Link with what, why and how: https://gist.github.com/prayank23/22763f4819= 9ed106e59801be43ad4efc > > Two related things that I found:=20 > > 1.> Koala Studio tried chess on LN in 2019 but shutdown in August 2019 > 2.Etleneum still has chess but works differently > > Primary goal of this project can be different and focus on testing Bitcoi= n transactions. Secondary goal is to have fun and contribute in increasing = demand for block space. Maybe an app for developers to play chess, friendly= competitions, learn and share new things.=20 > > If chess sounds boring it can be replaced with any 2 player game that wor= ks for such setup and can be played with patience over few hours/days. > > Spam? Sorry zero fee transactions do not work anymore. In fact, nothing b= elow 1 sat/vbyte fee rate would work and all transactions will pay fees tha= t are required long term. OP_RETURN is used by many projects and excluded f= rom UTXO set. Let me know if something looks wrong. I won't be working on t= his as busy with another project and recently started contributing in Wasab= i. > > > --=20 > Prayank > > A3B1 E430 2298 178F > ------=_Part_38025_972265104.1638631712655 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can you share the email address to get approval or permission for this= type of bitcoin transactions? i.e. opening and closing of LN channels or O= P_RETURN. I will keep that in Cc next time.

=
I can write chess moves on a dollar bill and send t= o my friends but it does not solve any of the problems. Bitcoin's blockchai= n or ledger is for transactions. As long as a transaction is valid, standar= d and paying fees nobody should have issues with what is being achieved wit= h the transaction.

T= hanks

--
Prayank
=
A3B1 E430 2298 178F



Dec 4, 2021, 15:30 by willtech@live.com.au:=
The frivolous use of block space - ie. to increase the demand for bloc= k space -  is not encouraged. Although it is possible you may write ch= ess moves on a wrap of dollar bills and send them to your friends, nowhere = that I know of has this been recorded in a ledger as a valid past time.

KING JAMES HRMH
Great British Empir= e

Regards,
The Australian
LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH (& HMRH)
of Hougun= Manor & Glencoe & British Empire
MR. Damian A. James= Williamson
Wills

et al.

 
Willtech
www.willt= ech.com.au
www.go-overt.com
duigco.org DUIGCO A= PI
and other projects
 

=
m. 0487135719
f. +61261470192


This email does not constitute a general advice. Pl= ease disregard this email if misdelivered.


From: bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev-bounces@lists= .linuxfoundation.org> on behalf of Prayank via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-d= ev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>

= Sent: Saturday, 4 December 2021 3:36 PM
To: Lightning Dev= <lightning-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev= <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: [bitcoin= -dev] Pawn (chess piece) | Breaking bitcoin by playing chess =
 
Hello World,

Link with what, why and how: https://= gist.github.com/prayank23/22763f48199ed106e59801be43ad4efc

Two related things that I found:

1.Koala Studio tried chess on LN in 2019 but shutdown in August= 2019
2.Etleneum still has chess but works differently

Primary goal of this project can be different and focus on testing = Bitcoin transactions. Secondary goal is to have fun and contribute in incre= asing demand for block space. Maybe an app for developers to play chess, friendly competitions, learn and share new things.

If chess sounds boring it can be replaced with any 2 player game that= works for such setup and can be played with patience over few hours/days.<= /span>

Spam? Sorry zero fee transactions do not work a= nymore. In fact, nothing below 1 sat/vbyte fee rate would work and all tran= sactions will pay fees that are required long term. OP_RETURN is used by ma= ny projects and excluded from UTXO set. Let me know if something looks wrong. I won't be w= orking on this as busy with another project and recently started contributi= ng in Wasabi.


--
Prayank

A3B1 E430 2298 178F
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