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See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.3 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1W3aSj-0001CD-9W Cc: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Stealth Addresses X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 00:05:34 -0000 ------------mQZk93yAj62F69c4eXXgLP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Might I propose "reusable address". I think that describes it best to any non-programmer, and even more so encourages wallets to present options as 'one time use' vs 'reusable'. It definitely packs a marketing punch which could help drive adoption. The feature is only useful if/when broadly adopted. I think it meets all the criteria required: - Communication between parties is a single message from the payee, which may be public - Multiple payments to the same address are not publicly linkable on the blockchain - The payee has explicitly designated they expect to receive more than one payment at that address - Payer can publicly prove they made a payment to the reusable address by revealing a secret I have high hopes for this feature. The war *against* address reuse may soon be a distant memory. On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 12:44:17 -0800, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com> wrote: > "static address" seems like a reasonable attempt at describing intended > use/direction. > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> > wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Ben Davenport >> <bendavenport@gmail.com> wrote: >>> But may I suggest we consider changing the name "stealth address" to >>> something more neutral? >> >> ACK. Regardless of the 'political' overtones, I think stealth is a >> little cringe-worthy. >> >> "Private address" would be fine if not for confusion with private-keys. >> >> "Static address" is perhaps the best in my view. (also helps improve >> awareness that normal addresses are intended to be more one-use-ness) ------------mQZk93yAj62F69c4eXXgLP Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=----------mQZk93yAj62F69emOTdz9o ------------mQZk93yAj62F69emOTdz9o Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-ID: <op.1389830727295.b30c9d665d6b33c0@192.168.168.135> Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable <!DOCTYPE html><html><head> <style type=3D"text/css">body { font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size= :13px}</style> </head> <body><div>Might I propose "reusable address".<br><br>I think that descr= ibes it best to any non-programmer, and even more so encourages wallets = to present options as 'one time use' vs 'reusable'.</div><div><br></div>= <div>It definitely packs a marketing punch which could help drive adopti= on. The feature is only useful if/when broadly adopted.<br><br>I think i= t meets all the criteria required:</div><div><br></div><div> - Com= munication between parties is a single message from the payee, which may= be public</div><div> - Multiple payments to the same address are = not publicly linkable on the blockchain</div><div> - The payee has= explicitly designated they expect to receive more than one payment at t= hat address</div><div> - Payer can publicly prove they made a paym= ent to the reusable address by revealing a secret</div><div><br></div><d= iv>I have high hopes for this feature. The war *against* address reuse m= ay soon be a distant memory.</div><div><br></div><div>On Wed, 15 Jan 201= 4 12:44:17 -0800, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com> wrote:<br></div= ><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0 0 0.80ex; border-left: #0000FF 2px solid= ; padding-left: 1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">"static address" seems like a reas= onable attempt at describing intended use/direction.<br><br><div class=3D= "gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Gregory Maxwell <span dir= =3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:gmaxwell@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gma= xwell@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left= :1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">On Wed, Jan 15, 2014= at 12:22 PM, Ben Davenport <<a href=3D"mailto:bendavenport@gmail.com= ">bendavenport@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > But may I suggest we consider changing the name "stealth address" t= o<br> > something more neutral?<br> <br> </div>ACK. Regardless of the 'political' overtones, I think stealt= h is a<br> little cringe-worthy.<br> <br> "Private address" would be fine if not for confusion with private-keys.<= br> <br> "Static address" is perhaps the best in my view. (also helps improve<br>= awareness that normal addresses are intended to be more one-use-ne= ss)</blockquote></div></div></blockquote></body></html> ------------mQZk93yAj62F69emOTdz9o-- ------------mQZk93yAj62F69c4eXXgLP--