Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R1iCL-0004lu-G1 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:15:33 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from zinan.dashjr.org ([173.242.112.54]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1R1iCK-00022m-Pk for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:15:33 +0000 Received: from ishibashi.localnet (fl-184-4-160-40.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [184.4.160.40]) (Authenticated sender: luke-jr) by zinan.dashjr.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 075AD5605B5; Thu, 8 Sep 2011 17:15:27 +0000 (UTC) From: "Luke-Jr" To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 13:15:09 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.39-gentoo; KDE/4.6.5; x86_64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: CE5A D56A 36CC 69FA E7D2 3558 665F C11D D53E 9583 X-PGP-Key-ID: 665FC11DD53E9583 X-PGP-Keyserver: x-hkp://subkeys.pgp.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201109081315.12643.luke@dashjr.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -0.5 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Headers-End: 1R1iCK-00022m-Pk Cc: David Perry Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Alert System X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:15:33 -0000 On Thursday, September 08, 2011 12:51:02 PM Mike Hearn wrote: > Bitcoin is one of the few pieces of software I use that has no concept of > automatic updates or even notifications at all. Yet the network badly > relies on people upgrading for stability, scalability and to enable new > features. > > If the alert system goes away, it'd just end up being replaced by polling > something over HTTP, which is less decentralized than before. Having zero > way to communicate upgrades to end-users is a non-starter for anything > serious about mass market penetration. In fact, I think the alert system should relay (note, NOT display) messages *regardless of the key used*, so it isn't yet another "our client gets special status" thing, and can be used for other clients as well.